help us to know more about australia

[Madtwins]

Hey guys. We have a friend from Aussie at our job place. He works in Moscow office of our company, but will visit our ukrainian office soon. We talk alittle bit and impressed him buy our knowledge about aussie life. Of course we know alot from this board and TLE DVD's. Now he try to make a hard question to us. So help us.

First : what are 4 and 20 pies, big M, and beetroot hamburgers?

second : he's from Sydney. Tell us something special about Sydney sitizens whish hard to get to know if you don't live there.

Anyway we really interesting in Australia, so it will be nice to know something more!

[Burner]

4 and 20 is a brand name. They make meat pies. Big M is a brand name. They make chocolate milk. Beetroot hamburgers are just hamburgers, with beetroot on them. But not a shitty hambuger from a fast food joint. A real hamburger made at a BBQ. The beetroot completes the burger.

I have nothing nice to say about Sydney citizens. Hope i helped.

[Sarah]

haha, the only thing that sticks in my mind from both times I've been to Sydney is all the homeless people sleeping on the streets and in the parks and everywhere....I'm sure someone has a better story!! :p

[Boom King]

funfact: you know how in sydney (king street?0) there are a whole lot of people with signs begging? Well, the reason for that is that nsw doesn't have begging laws,whereas qld and vic do. (dont know about other states) People have actually been prosecuted in qld for it, too.

back to the topic: sydney has a harbour bridge and an opera house which are regarded as the main landmarks. It has a big harbour. It also has a gay pride
parade called the mardi gras and so I suppose it has lots of gay people, f'realz!

It was 'discovered' (sighted by white people) in 1770 by captain cook and in 1788 captain arthur phillip started bringing over criminals from england. A little while after that free settlers were allowed to get in on the action and its taken off from there.

Sydney is in the state of new south wales. Recently they've had a bit of trouble and so have a new premier and government, pretty much.


madtwins: do you guys speak russian as well as ukrainian? Which one is your first language? I was thinking about learning russian next year, even though it might be pretty difficult.

[Kacky]

Four N Twenty pies are delicious.

I learned a lot by reading this (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billbrysonsunburnedcounlh0.jpg) book. This author turns his travels into books, and he's really good at it too. Also includes history, etc.

[Boom King]

Oh man, I agree. Bill bryson rules!

[Kacky]

I loved that book so much. Glad I bought it that one evening in a book store. <3

[private_eye]

yuck.. 4 n 20 pies are not delicious. sargents pies are where it's at.

i find sydney similar to 4 n 20 pies, in that it is yuck also.

[Kacky]

Welllllllllllll, I believe Four N Twenty was the only kind I had. :p

[Julia]

Eew brand name pies. Go to a local bakery! Hehe I don't even eat pies so I don't know why I'm arguing this point... except that I work at a bakery.

[Ben reed]

theres a lot of homosexuals in sydney

[Boom King]

there's a lot of homosexuals in my bed.

[Ben reed]

lucky you...

[Madtwins]

Thank you guys! That's interesting, especially about gey parade. Can anyone tell something about Sydnay people habits?

To Boom King: of course our first language is ukrainian, but because we born in USSR times we know russian very well. It still alot of it in media and TV. We also heared from differend foreign people that russain is difficult for them. But we think it's hard only in pronounsation not in words.

[strahanie]

There is quite a rivalry between Sydney and Melbourne. Sydney people are under a strange delusion that their city is better then Melbourne which obviously it is not :p

[Craigels]

haha, the only thing that sticks in my mind from both times I've been to Sydney is all the homeless people sleeping on the streets and in the parks and everywhere....I'm sure someone has a better story!! :p

I was in the city somewhere and a drunk homeless man stumbled up to me swearing and yelling at me. I was a little dazed and confused but it was pretty funny looking back on it.

[Kacky]

Yes, Melbourne for the win!

[Absolution]

I was in the city somewhere and a drunk homeless man stumbled up to me swearing and yelling at me. I was a little dazed and confused but it was pretty funny looking back on it.
Yes, Melbourne for the win!

"Melbourne. Slightly less weird than Sydney."

Nah, really Melb's all good.
Can't remember much of Syd tbh...went up there a couple times when I was younger and then visited the airport in '06 (flight from Rome to Melb via HK and then Syd)...hey there's something. Sydney's airport is probably the 2nd worst (ie- most unorganised) I've been through (Heathrow still takes the cake imo)

[Sammas II]

"Sydney's airport is probably the 2nd worst (ie- most unorganised) I've been through (Heathrow still takes the cake imo)

Thats only because Sydney's airport actually has people in it. Unlike that country town of Melbourne. :p

I've lived in all of them. London is better! :eek:


:D:D

[Neo]

psht. you all don't know what you are talking about :p sydney is great! we might have more weirdo's than melb, but your weirdo's are a lot more weird than ours so it makes up for the difference :p I found melbourne rather unusual... you guys have farms equal to where my house is from the city here! what the hell!!

anyway, sydney has the largest population of all the cities in australia (its like 4 and a quarter million people or somewhere near that), and is the most expensive to live too. it was the place where captain cook first landed on australian ground in 1770 at a place called kurnell in botany bay (he was probably drawn in by that weird smell there :p)

hmm... what else. we have a giant coat hanger in the middle of the harbour and an ugly swan that some danish guy decided to build where people can sing and stuff... the sydney swans live here too. they are cool

as for pies. mrs macs all the way :D

[Absolution]

O rly? Well then mister in that case, I want to see your credentials!
'sides Melbourne has a- wait...I'm from Geelong...someone remind me why I'm defending Melb? In fact, Geelong WAS going to be Melbourne in the first place! Scamming everyone during the gold rush days, tsk tsk all you Melbournians!

Thats only because Sydney's airport actually has people in it. Unlike that country town of Melbourne. :p

I've lived in all of them. London is better! :eek:

:D:D
Why the cheek of you! lol, and what? London...better...???...Nononono, I'm sorry but no, lol, getting off a 24 hour flight with no sleep and then going through Heathrow...*shakes head*...bad memories! lol

[Deadcat Kaye]

If you're looking for a really good music scene, especially rockabilly and psychobilly then Melbourne IS the place.
We got the biggest Music scene in Australia.
Plus Melbourne is so much easier to get around.

Though I have hear people whinge that Melbourne has a bad lack of colour *shrugs*

Sydney is hard to get around.
At night time there are sooo many drunk people on the street.
Music scene ain't as good as Melbs.

[Boom King]

lolz there's too many drunk people on the street in every city and town in the world.

[Boom King]

after much avoidance I have been roped into going to sydney (wollongong actually) for christmas. Its not that I hate the city but I just dislike going there because my relatives are just so annoying.

[private_eye]

melbourne's the easiest to navigate around... just a grid. simple. as opposed to sydney that's just one big heap of mess/rubbish.

[Sammas II]

Idiots. Melburnians argue that Melbourne is easier to get around? Thats like a fish saying its easier to swim then fly.

Sh*t, Tokyo must suck!! I don't know where to go, ever...


...oh wait. I've never been there! :rolleyes:

[Kacky]

Phhhh. I found it easy to get around Melbourne...kinda. :p

[private_eye]

Well, when you've got a straight city, eg. Melbourne or New York, as opposed to a big slab of concrete goin all over the shop, eg. Sydney or Brisbane... it's not hard to work out which would be easier to navigate.

I dunno bout street names in other places, but ours are in sync! well, some...

[Neo]

I find Sydney easier to navigate, because the streets don't all look the same and run exactly parallel to each other. Or maybe Syd folk have better navigational skills :p

[Sarah]

Well I'm pretty shit at navigating. Been to Melbourne I think 3 times. Got lost once. Been to Sydney 2 times. Got lost once. Been to Brisbane once. Got lost 0 times.

Both Melbourne and Sydney aren't that exciting if you ask me.

[Fritz]

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hobbie, Tasmania
Posts: 4,016


LOL

[Sarah]

I'm not claiming Hobart is anything special either!

[Colezy]

I found my way around Melbourne so easily that when I was 10 and visiting there, I was telling Mum how to get to places :p

I have pretty good directional skills and stuff. Got that from dad!

[Madtwins]

Thanx guys. But don't start a qarrell where is better. We just want to hear something interesting exactly from you who live there.
Pleace tell us how much is rent of 1 room apartment in Sydney and Melb?

[Burner]

It very much depends on which suburb said apartment is. Apartment on the beach on in the city are quite expensive.

[lozzamouldy]

i've been to melb and sydney melb-1 time, syd-93q875237592 times
but melbourne is definately beter
sydney shits
sydneys shit
thats my quote

[Boom King]

wow, that's just sooooo poetic.
:rolleyes:


Yeah, rental prices vary a lot depending on the areas of the city.

you might want to play around with http://www.realestate.com.auif you really want to find out more about prices.

here are some maps so you have a list of some suburbs.

(having these two maps is a bit deceptive as the melbourne one probably only has half the suburbs.)

http://www.arta.com.au/nswmaps/MAPS/sydney.gif

http://www.macfixit.com.au/images/map.gif

man, im a nerd. I have an overwhelming desire to search through realestate.com.au and find the average rental prices for each suburb and town in australia but I wont because that would take far too long.

[Kacky]

Wholy moly, it's NUNAWADING.

[Boom King]

fyi I am a total bogan by birth as the address on my birth certificate is in the suburb of "mt druitt' (just about the 'great' on the great western highway on the sydney map.

[Colezy]

You still are a bogan, Kylie.

[Boom King]

I like to think I have left my bogan heritage far behind me!

Has anyone seen advertising for that new tv show 'Bogan Pride' on sbs? I'm not sure how I feel about it. It stars 'Rebel Wilson' who i've never thought was particularly funny.

[private_eye]

i cannot believe wonga park gets a mention hahaha... thats where i live, its the tiniest suburb. and they spelt croydOn wrong...

[Ben reed]

IVE BEEN TO WONGA PARK
its famous among my cricketing community for the place where we all played the second phase of our state trials at wonga park
it was like 3 degrees the day i played there...

[Ben reed]

i also cant believe belle vue is there
its not even a suburb
its a strip of shops and a school right near my house...
and they also spelt bulleen wrong
lol bullen..?

[private_eye]

i live on the street where the cricket ovals are

[The Dying Start]

Are there many deer in Deer Park?

[Ben reed]

i seeeeeeee

[private_eye]

Are there many deer in Deer Park?

if by deer you mean criminals then yes, there are a lot of deer.

[Absolution]

Begs the question if game is in season now, aye?

[The Dying Start]

if by game you mean criminals then yes, game is in season now.

[Neo]

that map of sydney is a kinda weird. It's failry off in a few parts. :p

[Kacky]

Haha. I've been meaning to get a Melways. I get amused with maps.

[Boom King]

I enjoy reading street directories.

[Neo]

Me too! My mother is often shocked at how quickly I can find the street we are on whenever we require the use of the street directory. Cos I just seem to know exactly where everything is. heh

I also enjoy the world atlas :p

/loser

[Aaron]

I just went to Melbourne. Only the third time ever, and the first where I've actually paid any attention to it, as I was able to walk around by myself. I liked it.

[private_eye]

check out the alley/lane ways?

[Boom King]

I wish I had more time last time I was in Melbourne (yes, I am aware that I had enough time in the 7 months I lived there, shut up) to look around and do things properly but I had too many people to meet. Next time I'm not seeing any of you.

[private_eye]

when you're not seeing any of us (not that i would actually know if i'd seen you or not...) make sure you check out St Jerome's (probs not on a Friday or Saturday night) and the Corner beer garden (on a nice Friday arvo/night) and try the Hightail Ale!

[Aaron]

check out the alley/lane ways?

Nah, not enough time. Actually spent a fair bit of my short time there cooped up inside, but I'll go back again soonish, I reckon.

[Boom King]

when you're not seeing any of us (not that i would actually know if i'd seen you or not...) make sure you check out St Jerome's (probs not on a Friday or Saturday night) and the Corner beer garden (on a nice Friday arvo/night) and try the Hightail Ale!

When I'm visiting places im not really a going-out-and-boozing-it type of person. I can do that at home. I'm more of a walking-around-and-exploring type of person.

[The Dying Start]

Exploring is heaps fun. I used to be a caveclan member.

[strahanie]

is that like the klu klux clan but in caves instead of sheets?

[Deadcat Kaye]

Now Beth, i'm fair sure they're called the KKK for a reason...
Klu Klux Klan :) :p

[The Dying Start]

is that like the klu klux clan but in caves instead of sheets?

Exactly! WHITE POWAHHH!

[May]

Now Beth, i'm fair sure they're called the KKK for a reason...
Klu Klux Klan :) :p
Yeah. I usually see the Macleod, Stewart and Ross clans, but didnt think I'd seen the Klu Klux clan at any of the highland gatherings :p

[Boom King]

Exploring is heaps fun. I used to be a caveclan member.

I wish you would've said something about sperlunking so I could make an arse sperlunking joke.

[The Dying Start]

It's "spelunking"...according to the internet dictionary.

[Boom King]

Yeah, it came up wrong with firefox but I couldn't be bothered to work out the correct spelling.

[The Dying Start]

You're flunking spelunking.

[Boom King]

you're a flunking sperlunking monkey from junkietown.

[The Dying Start]

WOW. No. Really...Just Wow!

[Boom King]

im a poet, I know it and im here to show it.

[bogfurk]

Bogfurk new to australia and 2008 time. Bogfurk like Australia pie meats and biscuit chocolate called tam tims.

[Kacky]

Lol, "Tam Tims".

[Big J.G]

Australian stuff:

Weet-Bix
Vegemite
Tim Tams (not tam tims)
Arnotts Shapes
VB
Holden
Kath and Kim
The Living End
Meat Pies
Chips with Tomato Sauce!

[Kacky]

Tim Tams, Shapes, Meat Pies and TLE = <3

[Sarah]

kinda on topic, i can see a kangaroo across the road right now having its lunch!

[Kacky]

Sarah...rly?!

[Sarah]

hang on i'll see if my camera zooms enough to get a shot...

[Kacky]

I'm excited!

[Sarah]

how excited?

[Kacky]

Uh, REAL EXCITED!

[Sarah]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/bobrox/100_1739.jpg

[Sarah]

sometimes he must go into town or something, cos occasionally i see him on the footpath or going through our neighbours property to get back to his bit of grass!

[Kacky]

That is SO awesome! :p

[Sarah]

see what you missed out on by not coming down here!

[Kacky]

*Books flight to Tassie*

[Big J.G]

Go anywhere in Australia except Sydney!

[Neo]

Go anywhere in Australia except Sydney!

you suck

[lozzamouldy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/bobrox/100_1739.jpg

skippy! .............

[private_eye]

you suck

not as much as sydney / sydneysiders!

[Neo]

not as much as sydney / sydneysiders!
you suck worse

[Boom King]

fights about cities are so tedious.

[The Dying Start]

Unless it develops into civil war.

[Boom King]

I suppose. How different do you suppose this continent would be if the colonies developed into separate countries instead of one?

[The Dying Start]

Well just imagine all our Premiers being Prime Ministers of their own little country, and that give you some idea of how fucked it'd be.

[Boom King]

haha.

I am guessing each place would have a more distinct culture than now, tasmania particularly because its an island. There would of course be far less migration between the countries which would probably result in NSW being the most populous by more than it is now. I suppose eventually these countries would have developed some type of EU type agreement anyway and people would move around more!

[Neo]

the NSW government is totally pathetic. I would not like to live here as its own country.

[The Dying Start]

South Australia would also be uninhabitable because the Eastern States would have used up all our water. We'd brobably just end up being lumped in with NT.

[Boom King]

Queensland would be presently doing pretty well as its own country as we hog a fair bit of the minerals that are stolen from our queensland earth and we'd probably export them to the rest of these hypothetical countries. However, we'd probably get greedy and make it hella polluted and then we'd run out of stuff to export to the other australian countries, leaving us screwed.

[Deadcat Kaye]

Fact:

New South Whales has the most cases of AIDS in Australia.
:)

[Boom King]

well, it has the most people.

[NickyG]

Bittern, Victoria is home to the Bittern Bird... But of yet not one has been sighted by the locals actually in bittern.

[Sammas II]

well, it has the most people.


Well... its probably because Sydney has more gay people.


...but then thats only a problem if you are terribly uncomfortable with your sexuality.



This thready suffers from a serious lack of a broader perspective. Go back to your bubbles people, there is nothing to see here.

[Boom King]

The rates of HIV/AIDS are miniscule in Australia compared to other countries anyway.

I hope your post said something far more offensive before you edited it. :D

[bogfurk]

bofurk time no aids :D