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wizard_23
10-26-2006, 10:16 AM
Hey guys, for a school project im doing a presentation on Monday. I chose it as it is a well written song with meaning. I was just wondering if anyone has come across any interveiws with chris about him writing the song. The only snippet i have is on a live recording where he starts to tell the story of how he wrote the song about the Dunblane Massacre, before being cut of by Trav. "Lets just play the fucking song", or sumthin along those lines. So if anyone could put me in the right direction it would be most appreciated.

Cheers!

Colezy
10-26-2006, 11:05 AM
This is what Chris had to say about the song on the lyrics page of the old website.
"Monday was written about the Dunblane massacre - the social worker who walked into the local primary school and gunned down 16 children and a teacher. What a senseless act. I just felt compelled to write a song about it."

Hope that helped you in some way :)

Disease
10-26-2006, 11:07 AM
Hehe that's what I was gonna post.

Colezy
10-26-2006, 11:13 AM
But I beat you to it! (ner, ner) :p
:)

kempos2112
10-26-2006, 11:38 AM
that kind of changes the mood of the song.

*M!
10-26-2006, 11:48 AM
hadn't you actually listened to the lyrics before Kempos?

*M!

Disease
10-26-2006, 11:48 AM
that kind of changes the mood of the song.

..well if you'd ever listened to the lyrics before you would've realised that it's not exactly a happy song..?


EDIT: Damnit *M! you beat me to it.

*M!
10-26-2006, 11:55 AM
hehe - that's twice you've been beaten (by a girl) in one thread Disease - nice :p

i'm amazed at how surprised Kempos seemed by the revalation it's about the dunblane massacre... :eek:

i love this song for so many reasons though - i think Chris lyricised the sensitive subject matter brilliantly - and the guitar in it... - blows me away!

hope your project goes well Wizard!

*M!

kempos2112
10-26-2006, 12:05 PM
i know the lyrics, iv heard of the conection, but the actual music isnt realy a very sad soundign pice, is prety happy sounding actualy, as is the guitar solo.
and whats with forum members always trying 2 beat each other up?

Disease
10-26-2006, 12:13 PM
Don't worry, it's all in good humour. :p

*M!
10-26-2006, 12:19 PM
haha - yeah - we punch, laugh, then run!

:p

makes us feel better - i was just surprised is all kempos... i didn't sense a beating on the boards... just... :eek:

:p

*M!

kempos2112
10-26-2006, 12:19 PM
alrighty. jsut out of interest (only just re re re registerd on thsi forum (third time) ) thats witht the TLE song next 2 every nes name? can it be changed?
it looks liek im stuck with whats on your radio, whcih is a bit dodge, thats my least fav of there songs :(

*M!
10-26-2006, 12:22 PM
basically the more you post - the more your name changes!

there is discussion on this in one of the other threads so i won't explain more here - it's a little off topic

*M!

kempos2112
10-26-2006, 12:27 PM
yeah sorry. back 2 monday.

Rhiannon
10-26-2006, 01:04 PM
The best of mates hang shit on each other, it's just what you do!

RollOn
10-26-2006, 01:37 PM
Wizard, may I suggest that for your project that you also research the Dunblane massacre to get a better understanding of what happened and in turn a better understanding of Monday.

I hope your project goes well, good luck with it!

Monday is one of my fave TLE songs so make sure you do it well! Let us know how you go.

The Dying Start
10-26-2006, 02:40 PM
There's not really much you can say about it, is there. It's about the Dunblane Massacre.....and that's it :p

RollOn
10-26-2006, 03:00 PM
Exactly Glenn, which is why I suggested that he research the Dunblane massacre more and he may be able to extract more from the song?!

The Dying Start
10-26-2006, 03:11 PM
He should also research plastic soldiers!

wizard_23
10-26-2006, 04:19 PM
Thanks 2 everyone 4 there help. Im pretty new to the forum but ive already noticed how helpful everyone is! Out of curiousity i researched it all a while back so then when the chance came up to do a presentation on a song we like i decided it would be a good one. Thanks 4 the advice Roll On. It's a sad subject to study but a story that must be told. I recomend every TLE listener do a bit of research as it gives the song new meaning and more depth than jus the great rock song it is.

Will report back on how it all goes! cheers.

Colezy
10-26-2006, 04:22 PM
Good luck with it :)

*M!
10-26-2006, 04:26 PM
hehe good luck...

i have a rather clear memory of hearing about the dunblane massacre back when it actually happened - it was before i'd heard of The Living End - i feel the song is a nice tribute to such a terrible event...

it makes you wonder though...

*M!

_jimmy_
10-27-2006, 10:23 AM
when was the massacre?

The Dying Start
10-27-2006, 01:55 PM
Hello...allow me to introduce you to google

GOOOOOOOOGLE! (http://www.google.com)


It was 1996.

RollOn
10-27-2006, 03:14 PM
I was only six at the time but I still remember hearing it on the news. We'd all been out for a family trip mini golfing and it came on the radio.

Like Maria, I feel the song is a really nice tribute.

The Dying Start
10-27-2006, 09:04 PM
I don't remember it at all...which is odd because alot of those big news moments i remember vividly. I have no idea what rock I was hiding under. I would have been in year 7.

carrymehomestead
11-02-2006, 11:04 AM
This is sorta/kinda off topic, but does anyone who's heard the old version of Monday (mine is from Falls '97) know what the original lyrics were in the bridge? It's not particularly important, but I'm just curious.

In the final album version it goes:

"Playing quietly, along came destiny, no I, I don't wanna play..."

in the old version, I know it starts with "I'm not supposed to be..", but past that I'm a bit confused. It's completely different lyrics though. Eeeenteresting.

*M!
11-02-2006, 11:10 AM
i've never heard that version carrymehomestead - i'm intriegued

*M!

The Dying Start
11-02-2006, 11:25 AM
There was alot of speculation when that set was played on JJJ a year ago. I'm not sure we came up with anything conclusive.

carrymehomestead
11-02-2006, 12:24 PM
Can I post an mp3 of it??

and if yes, how do I go about doing so?

Kevin
11-02-2006, 12:28 PM
use megaupload.com

mel_bound
11-02-2006, 12:28 PM
Isn't it on 23rd Precinct?

Link (http://www.23rdprecinct.net) / Multimedia / Audio Gallery / Falls Festival 1997

Colezy
11-02-2006, 03:05 PM
I was thinnking this EXACT same thing today on the bus. Wow That's weird! :p
I listened to it and thought HEY! It's got different words! I've listened to this songs heaps since I got it and only noticed it today!

dirty man
11-02-2006, 06:27 PM
with researching song meanings etc i reccomened
http://www.songmeanings.net/
its a site where members give their opinions on songs, not nearly enough in TLE section


dont know if you guys have heard of it or not

mel_bound
11-02-2006, 06:30 PM
with researching song meanings etc i reccomened
http://www.songmeanings.net/
its a site where members give their opinions on songs, not nearly enough in TLE section


dont know if you guys have heard of it or not

Yeah I read that sometimes, most of it's teenys saying "omfg I luv this song!!11"

TLE lyrics with meanings (http://www.thelivingend.com/lyrics/lyrics2.html)
doesn't have anything past the FHOI comp though.

State_Of_Emergency
11-02-2006, 06:30 PM
:D true mel true

Evil Chris
11-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Hello...allow me to introduce you to google

GOOOOOOOOGLE! (http://www.google.com)


It was 1996.

Not to be confused by the Columbine Massacre which was on my birthday in 1999

Julian
11-02-2006, 08:04 PM
I was thinnking this EXACT same thing today on the bus. !

Holy shit, I was too :eek: . I listened to the Falls set twice today, gotta love the rawness.

The Dying Start
11-02-2006, 10:28 PM
Not to be confused by the Columbine Massacre which was on my birthday in 1999

Happy Birthday to youuuu


gotta love the rawness.

You should get some ointment for that!

dirty man
11-03-2006, 04:56 PM
what a joyful b'day that would be

wizard_23
11-09-2006, 07:26 PM
hey guys told u id report bak and tell u how my presentation went so here i am! first of all, thanks a bunch 4 all your help... everyone! So did my presentation along with all the other peops in my class this morning. Hmm.. the first girl had michael jackson, so i was always gunna look good!

So played the songs on a power point (all themed in black, red and white) and had the lyrics and pics...etc. Then had 2 do a 5 minute speech on why i chose the song, what it was about, who wrote it and all that jazz.

Wasnt sure if my teacher would go 4 TLE but when i finished she commented that chris sounded very Australian. didnt knw if she was tryna b a smart ass but she went on 2 say its great to see an Aussie artist being proud of their roots and not singing with a fake american accent! (hmm... think she must b a closet rocker from way back!) but yah it all went 2 plan and im hoping a good mark will follow.

Yay... 2moz is my last day of school 4 the year + a week of exams. Un-Fucking-Real i say!

Once again (cuz u all deserve it) A big big big thank u! i knew u wuldnt let me down forumers!

The Dying Start
11-09-2006, 09:08 PM
Let us know how you did!

Glad to help.

wizard_23
11-15-2006, 05:24 PM
A+. No Shit! found out 2day. was mitey happy. but then again ive always been very good in the oral department!:rolleyes:

Its not just my A+ though, its chris's, andys and scotts...and of course all you guys who helped me.

THNK U THNK U THNK U!

Colezy
11-15-2006, 10:41 PM
Well done! :)

Tle89
11-16-2006, 01:30 PM
Not to be confused by the Columbine Massacre which was on my birthday in 1999

Hey my b'day is on the 20th of April too wow amazing you know that hitler's b'day is on the 20th of april aswell

The Dying Start
11-16-2006, 03:13 PM
A+. No Shit! found out 2day. was mitey happy. but then again ive always been very good in the oral department!:rolleyes:

Its not just my A+ though, its chris's, andys and scotts...and of course all you guys who helped me.

THNK U THNK U THNK U!

We're all very glad it wasn't an essay Captian Spelling Bee! :p

*M!
11-16-2006, 03:17 PM
good work! :)

in honour of the A+ i'm listening to Monday for you :p

(not really, it just came on my iPod randomly)

*M!

Aaron
11-16-2006, 03:18 PM
A+ ... A+
THNK ... THNK ... THNK
I'm confused. Do you like 'A's or not? :rolleyes:

*M!
11-16-2006, 03:21 PM
I'm confused. Do you like 'A's or not? :rolleyes:

Oh Aaron, I love you so much!

you always make me laugh!

you'd thing with A+ he should've used more As than normal but apparently my logic isn't logical...

*shrugs*

*M!

Aaron
11-16-2006, 03:25 PM
Heh, that's almost worth a signature quote :p

*M!
11-16-2006, 03:28 PM
almost - but i'm not cool enough to be quoted in a signature... or i'm too cool - i haven't decided yet

:p

how do you always make my day brighter?

*M!

Aaron
11-16-2006, 03:32 PM
how do you always make my day brighter?
Like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/azfish/lightglobe.png

Thankyou Sir Thomas Edison.

*M!
11-16-2006, 03:35 PM
Thomas Edison invented the emoticon?

holy bajeezus - he's amazing :p

*giggles* Aaron, you're a clown!
(oh wait, AND you can juggle too! WOW! Jackpot! do you do birthday parties?)

*M!

Aaron
11-16-2006, 03:36 PM
do you do birthday parties?
Only once a year.

*M!
11-16-2006, 03:37 PM
score - i'll pay you to juggle at my party! :)

and i'll bring musk sticks and cake too!

:)

*M!

The Dying Start
11-16-2006, 03:52 PM
Aaron will supply his own musk stick so long as you bring your cake!