LIVING END NRL GRAND FINAL GAME - Pre Match

[stix]

Just saw on Ch9
THE LIVING END head up the Pre-Match entertainment for the NRL Grand Final TODAY at ANZ Stadium Sydney!

Ent kicks off at 4.30pm (syd Time)
Then the game at 5pm

sorry if this has already been posted. I looked but couldnt find anything!

Cheers

B-rad/Stix

:)

[The Dying Start]

Thanks Brad...where the hell have you been anyways?!!

[mattheal]

This would be the best place for MITS to be played

[Kacky]

Awesome. Recordage!?

[Big J.G]

I will record, if the performance gets aired. I got some new blank DVD's. Hopefully they don't get damadged.

[Kacky]

Great, thanks. :)

[Big J.G]

Got about 5 and a half hours to go.

Lol I dunno.

[stix]

The Dying Start Thanks Brad...where the hell have you been anyways?!!

I have been around! Reading, just not really posting for a while. But when i was watching the Footy Show this morn they said about TLE, perfect opportunity to post!!

So yeh its 4.30 SYDNEY TIME, so peoples convert your time! We went into DST today too!

I reckon they will play at least 3 songs. Saw Grinspoon play before the State Of Origin a few years back, they did a few songs :)

[Big J.G]

ah, so its 1.30 WA time

I dunno if I'll be home in time to watch and record it, I'll be at the gym and I'm going out for lunch.

[paulvroc]

4:30 in melbourne also...can't wait!!

[BennyD]

3:30 for QLD people, just to state the obvious

[tanguyen]

They just played Riot on Broadway before the break... nice little obscure song there to keep the punters guessing.

[stix]

3.30 in qld

but the NSW cup game went for close to 110mins, meant to be 80, so we could see a delay in some things.
Still tune in around 4/4.30 SYD TIME so u dont miss anything :)

[Big J.G]

Riot On Broadway eh?

That'd be interesting if they played a classic rather then a fresh one.

[BennyD]

OMG LOL have you seen how bogan that looks with all those people 'playing the bbq'

[BennyD]

well this preformance wont go down in history

[Flaming_Ice]

They're on now, White Noise and sounding pretty good.

[tanguyen]

A bit of mime-age but I'm still loving it. Lol, I don't think the boys know how to perform with a bunch of dancers.

[BennyD]

ha ha nine put "how do we know you" lol

[drifta_21]

Umm..."How Do We Know You". Ownage.

EDIT: Damn. You beat me, but the second I read it I just literally fell off my chair and ROFL'd big time.

[Elyse]

TLE 'How do we know you?'

hahaha nice one channel 9.

[Matt]

dude wtf. They're lip syncing.

[drifta_21]

Anyone realise that they played White Noise for a sec when they were walking to the stage? Damn, why'd it have to be fake? Oh well, can't expect them to wire the whole place up that quickly.

[Flaming_Ice]

Geh only two songs? Scotty's singing seemed like it was actually live, but the instruments didn't sound too live...

[Elyse]

i had to laugh then reading your sig then seeing the 'WTF'...

contradictory much?

[drifta_21]

No Moment In The Sun? MEH.

[BennyD]

they do that for every band that do grand finals though, you would think they would have enough confidence in TLE to play well

[djhampson]

What the hell?? It was dubbed!

[Matt]

i had to laugh then reading your sig then seeing the 'WTF'...

contradictory much?

Trolling people on this forum r00ls.

[Matt_to_the_End]

What. The. Fuck. was that?

Living End plumets in my book. If I was Chris, I would have said no to a fake performance,

wow, loss of respect. Dont flame me and say its not their fault..would you agree to fake a song thats been flogged to death?

[drifta_21]

What. The. Fuck. was that?

Living End plumets in my book. If I was Chris, I would have said no to a fake performance,

wow, loss of respect. Dont flame me and say its not their fault..would you agree to fake a song thats been flogged to death?

Don't worry, I know how you're feeling. WHAT HAPPENED!?

[Big J.G]

Lol yeah, How Do We Know You.

I'll upload it, even though it was a fake performance. It'd be interesting to see people's opinions on it.

[Erin]

Ah. I see we've all saw the performance.

I realised it was fake when Scott's earpiece fell out and he stopped playing to put it back in...even though the bass line was still playing

i don't think they WANTED to do a dubbed performance- it was good publicity to perform there, so they agreed.

if any respect is lost- it's Channel 9- How do we know you. I 'lol'ed.

They aren't gunna lose my respect

[mattheal]

THAT WAS A LOAD OF BS!!!:mad:

they could have done that soo easy, and it was soo obvious in how do we know, the guitar track was the exact one from the album, even down to the bit of feedback over the chorus form a SECOND GUITAR!!!

i really cant see them as being happy with doing a performance like that

[Anfony]

Obviously a fake performance which just isnt TLE. In saying that though, there wa probably reasons for it. I havn't lost any respect for them.

[Matt]

I mean, for craps sake, they even had the strings part in how do we know (you ;) ) dammit.

[E.B.]

Wow, that's BS, having one of Australia's best live bands lip sync, well done channel 9
they should've done what Muse did when they were asked to lip sync, have the bassist and drummer trade places

[mattheal]

they should've done what Muse did when they were asked to lip sync, have the bassist and drummer trade places

really? thats brilliant!! :D

[Erin]

they should've done what Muse did when they were asked to lip sync, have the bassist and drummer trade places

bwahahhaa! really? that's brilliant!!

HOLY SHIT. Matt, we has the same minds! :P

[Colezy]

I assumed it wouldn't be shown here, but then my brother heard HDWK being played and I ran out the the TV :p

I had a feeling that it wasn't real/live for the TV land people when Scott's thingy fell out. And that Chris and Andy's playing wasn't in time to what I was hearing.

Oh and you could tell when Chris said "thank you" at the end of it and it had the echo-y sound that you get at big grounds like that.

[Matt_to_the_End]

And this is why I fucking hate Channel Nine..make my band look like idiots. Fuckers.

Chris struggled badly with lip synching and fake guitar playing...good for him, hes a pure musician, not Ashlee Simpson...Although the vocals sounded pre recorded (not from the album) Haha what about Scott, poor bastard. XD

Haha How do we know you...*Gordon Ramsey like* Fuck me...hahaha.

Oh well, I'll mention this to Chris next time I get to meet him...and tease him all night long.
"Hey Chris, you really talkin to me or lip synchin'" lol, someone do it!

[mattheal]

bwahahhaa! really? that's brilliant!!

HOLY SHIT. Matt, we has the same minds! :P

great minds think alike



also i agree with you on that one nicole, the vocals were way to clear compared to chris' taliking in between the songs to be live

[Erin]

Oh well, I'll mention this to Chris next time I get to meet him...and tease him all night long.

ask him to play how do we know (you).

:D

[Rock'n'Roll]

Lowest point in TLE's history. It is sad seeing a band who is a top of their game miming. The Hoodoo Gurus didn't mime when they played the NRL grand final. You would think that after what happened to Jet at last years AFL grand final you would have a clause saying no miming or no backing tracks.

On the positive side, it was good to see Scott doing what Keith Moon would've done.

[Erin]

after what happened to Jet at last years AFL grand final

...what happened?

[mattheal]

...what happened?

i think the sound cut out on them

[E.B.]

really? thats brilliant!! :D

Haha, yeah, it was pretty funny the way they were carrying on when performing

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3UW2kqJ9R4) the video <-------- thats the muse video btw not tle

but thank's again channel 9, way to ruin the grand final

[Big J.G]

Ripping Now.

[NickyG]

damn i missed it...

[Burner]

A bit of mime-age but I'm still loving it. Lol, I don't think the boys know how to perform with a bunch of dancers.

Yeah i notcied that too. I presumed it was just a bit of delay in the broadcast.

But it sounded good all the same.

[Matt]

damn i missed it...

Nicky my friend, you didn't miss much at all...

[Anfony]

I thought the same thing too Burner untill I noticed scott was in time and chris was out

[mel_bound]

they should've done what Muse did when they were asked to lip sync, have the bassist and drummer trade places
Youtub'd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZrM_pS98E)

That was the best performance I've ever seen xD

[Neo]

yeah i was in the bathroom my dad came bashing on the door. :p then my brother was singing "who do you know, who do you know" bahahahaha.

sucks that they were faking it. fuckin grr. why have them come all the way here just to dance. really

but then again I can see why they would do it. the sound would have been shocking from the stadium through the television. not only would the mix, but then you would have like 5 different echo's and it would be an out of time mish mash. haha :p

[Rock'n'Roll]

...what happened?

They had problems with the sound cutting out. Same thing happend to someone else at the NRL grand final about five years ago. It's funny if you don't like the band, but when it's one of your favourite bands you feel sorry for them.

[Chovies]

I think channel nine deserves a few "friendly" emails for us forum-ers ;)

[Erin]

Youtub'd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZrM_pS98E)

That was the best performance I've ever seen xD

lol @ flamboyant piano playing :P

[mel_bound]

lol @ flamboyant piano playing :P

FLAIL! xD

There's a bunch of other Muse syncing clips, where they wear stockings on their heads, Matt does a flip while supposedly playing a guitar solo and Chris eating a microphone while he's doing backing vocals, brilliance.
TLE definitely should have employed some purposefully stupid moves, haha. I'm intrigued to see this though.

[Erin]

lip syncing aside- there's other things about that performance :D

* The dry ice used in 'white noise' drowned Andy a couple 'o times

*The public apreciation shown for Chris' Storm joke- It was valid!

[Colezy]

Jamie - they were already in NSW :p

[Rock'n'Roll]

They had problems with the sound cutting out. Same thing happend to someone else at the NRL grand final about five years ago. It's funny if you don't like the band, but when it's one of your favourite bands you feel sorry for them.

That someone else was Billy Idol...

[Erin]

I remember that :D god, that was awkward.

i heard 'raise the alarm' when they were going to the ad break- Too late to apologise ch 9

[All_torn_down16]

Just read the whole thread and that sucks! Lip synching is not good and whoever came up with the idea to have TLE do it needs to know that they don't need it! No way.

[Big J.G]

Just read the whole thread and that sucks! Lip synching is not good and whoever came up with the idea to have TLE do it needs to know that they don't need it! No way.

There is a problem though with setting up the equipment immediately after the other performance.

But TLE should have went on first. That way they had all their lives to set the equipment up.

[Big J.G]

It's uploading now. Unfortunately I can't split them without destroying the quality (though, I think the sound has some sort of wistling)

[petce00]

aww man i watched the performance.. such a dissapointment
did anyone else get the feeling that chris was lipsyncing and things of the sort?

[Fritz]

Thats what we've been discussing for the last few pages in this topic

[Neo]

Jamie - they were already in NSW :p

what the hell for? jeez am I out of the loop or what :o

[paulvroc]

i'm just really saddened by the whole thing.
this band deserves better. and shame on them for going ahead with a lip-synching gig.
:(

[The Dying Start]

I hope Rae is pissed. I hope the band is pissed. Coz I'm pissed. This kinda crap is the opposite of good publicity. "The best live band in the country" can lose its integrity pretty quick on the back of a shoddy mime-job.

[Big J.G]

Singing: Live
Guitar & Bass: Synced
Drums: Not Sure.

[petce00]

lol i just read it all
man i was worring wen iwas listening to it but then as if Chris would lip sync really so obviously it was setting the shit up. Chris would never fake a live performance :)

[The Dying Start]

Well he just did.

[Big J.G]

It was a good way to promote the album, but its obvious it has been lip synced.

The guitaring and shit you see with chris's fingers, they don't even match what's playing.

At least we have the Moment In The Sun single around the corner, not to mention a performace at the Arias, in which they may win at least 1 Aria.

[The Dying Start]

Yes, the faster this thread gets buried the better.

[Big J.G]

A good way to bury the thread.

~Lock.

[petce00]

yea their 2 good for thiss shit

[paulvroc]

gah!
disgraceful day in their long history...thats all i'll say

[NickyG]

Deniliquin is pretty far from sydney... Closer to melbourne i think.... Maybe Channel 9 just dubbed over?

[Sarah]

Oh man, just got home from work and watched this. to start with i was worried our hard drive was screwing up like our old one...but then I realised it wasn't a live sound at all and Scott wasn't playing properly. Was kinda relieved and then kinda pissed again! :p

Surely it would have been better to not do this show altogether then fake it. I don't know who let that happen, but it's pretty fucking disappointing. I can understand if you are some pathetic pop act that can't sing or play in the first place, but as someone already pointed out, this is 'Australias best live act'!

Still love the boys (as if I couldn't!), but someone further up screwed up.

[Big J.G]

If they were gonna fake something, at least do it properly so no one can tell.

For me, the fake was confirmed in the last chorus of how do we know (you) when there is that very high sustain note over it.

And last time I checked you can't play that and the chords on one guitar.

[NickyG]

i still think Channel 9 dubbed over the sound to make it sound better as the boys were doing it but in teh stadium it sounded shit...But i didn't watch it...

[Neo]

I think they were probably under the impression that they were going to be playing live, then probably told that they werent when they got there.

well at least that's what I'm hoping :p

[NickyG]

only one way to get the truth...

[Colezy]

Jamie - Deni Ute Muster :p

[NickyG]

Deni's closer to melbourne then Sydney ey?

[Neo]

Jamie - Deni Ute Muster :p

oh yeah!! but I thought that was like in the middle of nowhere, near VIC anyway?

either way, they are... well were, less than 5 mins up the road from me and it's kinda dissapointing they had to lip it or whatever.

oh well we will get over it :cool:

[Fritz]

I just dont see any differene from TLE today and Powerfinger playing at the AFL Grand final. Powderfinger played live, in a massive stadium live to TV and it sounded great..... I dont get it.

[petce00]

didnt someone say their wasnt enough time to set up their gear or sum shit...meh so the only way they could do it was to fake

[Big J.G]

Setting up gear is a factor that requires time, but it could have been set up already and TLE would just have to find it, lol i dunno.

[Erin]

The drummer before TLE was using Andy's (silver) drum. Everything was set up

doesn't chris have a REAL bad throat at the mo?

[petce00]

hahha yea thats true.
man i love chris cheney:)

[Big J.G]

The drummer before TLE was using Andy's (silver) drum. Everything was set up

doesn't chris have a REAL bad throat at the mo?

even if he does, he can still sing. He managed to pull it off nicely on the AFL Grand Final Footy Show.

I just hope that the Aria's arent Synced or I'll put my foot through the TV.

[Erin]

me too.

though the ARIAs are better with the 'live' performances. Looking at past NRL performances on youtube- (INXS for example) they've been told to sync

i can't remember whose post it was- yeah. I think it's a good thing they screwed up the sync thing- shows they have bugger all skills in fake performances

[Amur]

oh oh now I'm worried so much!
have to see the video to find out what happened...:(
how long uploading is gonna take?

[r2jeeves]

The best muse mime is that hysteria one with matt doing a flip. If you look closely, his guitar doesn't have any strings on it.

But on topic, fuck channel 9! Were chris' vocals live or pre-recorded? Cause he sang some notes differently in How do we know (you lol).

Horrible editing too. Who the hell decides to put Scott on camera when his ear piece falls out.

[Big J.G]

The Living End - White Noise/How Do We Know You? (Unlive at the NRL Grand Final) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L57IE6Q5)

[Amur]

thank you.
let's see what the fuck is going on with them =(

[Big J.G]

Please note the sound is a bit odd in this. I think its because I copied the raw .VOB file from the DVD and converted that. My DVD rippers are dodgy. There is some strange whistling sound coming from the right speaker.

[Matt_to_the_End]

Singing: Live
Guitar & Bass: Synced
Drums: Not Sure.

Nope, Chris's mouth didnt move with the lyrics, it was a re-recorded version of the songs.

[Ben reed]

lol it said how do we know "you?"
they actually just played the album track for how do we know but i think they recorded white noise earlier in the day...
lol and scotts earpiece fell out so he stopped play to put it back in
funny shit

[Amur]

doh Chris even hadn't his pedals.:rolleyes:
I hope that there's not so much people who noticed it was fake. I don't wanna TLE to be ashamed more than they're already are, sitting right now at home and regretting about this shitty perfomance

[Deadcat Kaye]

I reckon justt he obsessee's noticed :)

[Deadcat Kaye]

Realistically...also..
Think of it this way, how many shows have they played (NRL and AFL) and because sport and music doesn't mix it ALWAYS sounds like absolute shit.
So really for anyone watching/listening it won't sound appealing to them.

But the recordings do sound brilliant...so all they have to do is sing, apart fromt hat the rest is straight from the recording, and it'll sound brilliant so people can walk away and be like "that sounded awesome as!"

Works to their favour, I don't think they had a choice whether to play it properly.
So people shouldn't be complaining really.

[Neo]

I reckon they pulled it off pretty well. Thanks JG for the rip.
How awesome is the camera pan around the band though :p haha

but even my dad had a feeling it wasn't live, so its not just the die hards who picked up on it :p

White noise sounds like it was pre-recorded, how do we know is obviously straight off the cd. its note for note of the recorded version, except the vocals. hmm...

actually watching it again, white noise sounds like it was othe recorded version too (except the vocals of course)

[Big J.G]

I've split them using movie maker and am uploading them to youtube. Lets see the youtubers view on this.

[Deadcat Kaye]

you can hear the string part in HDWK haha

[Neo]

I hope the youtubers dont notice :p i don't want the band's reputation of the greatest live act in aus to be threatened. eek!

[Big J.G]

Yeah, I pointed that out earlier. (the string part)

And I'm going to be putting annotations on them saying that its all Channel Nines fault.

[Deadcat Kaye]

If you're worried about their reputation being damaged then why are you putting it on youtube?

[NickyG]

I'd just say channel 9 stuffed up

[Big J.G]

I wasn't worried. Now I Am. Because you pointed it out.

I'm still putting it on YouTube because I like to put videos on my account. And I'm 2 videos away from my favourite number '88'. Not that I'm a Nazi, its just a cool number.

If it gets bad comments, I'm going to put it on private.

[Neo]

yeah. im not the one putting them up!

im not really sure still, of what I think of this. lolllll it was a good karaoke job by Chris. im gonna leave it there. :p

[Big J.G]

I'm calling the videos: Channel Nine are Fools: The Living End - (what the song is)

[Deadcat Kaye]

Then that is just making it OBVIOUS that it isn't real.

[Big J.G]

k then I'll just make it seem real.

I dunno. Who's gonna view the videos anyway?

[Neo]

from a spectators point of view

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqgxzCpp5-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgDL9KXHm6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FDT9Fj_Z0U (this one is shitter)

and PYRO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZpsi32iWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2rPekYcf0o

[Deadcat Kaye]

People who like The Living End. . .

[Matt]

Wasn't the schedule running really late because the two earlier games went overtime, or something?

That could mean ch9 made them do it just to streamline the process, and the boys might not have even known about it till last minute. I do remember chris looking fairly pissed off while he was walking out...

[Neo]

Wasn't the schedule running really late because the two earlier games went overtime, or something?

That could mean ch9 made them do it just to streamline the process, and the boys might not have even known about it till last minute. I do remember chris looking fairly pissed off while he was walking out...

nah I don't reckon it was cos of the time, cos how can they get the song tracks at the last minute. it would have been planned I reckon

[Big J.G]

I just called it: The Living End - (song title) (Nrl Grand Final)

Description: Any mistakes they may make, blame channel nine

Oh, once it processes: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=aPj20Wsd9nA (White Noise)

[RTR_Flo]

Okay, after I had 75 % of the file downloaded the connection broke up. So thanks for putting the clip on youtube. What I find most scarier than the TLE Playback are the parts of the show: The cheerleaders, the cars, this whole thing I can't connect with my picture of the band. Maybe it's just cause I'm not an Aussie but the whole atmosphere there seems very strange to me..

[Kristen]

I can't believe I am about to stick up for Channel 9 here but..

Before you all start writing your emails of complaint to them, I could be wrong but I don't think this whole business actually had anything to do with Channel 9. To my knowledge they merely broadcast the event - they don't organise any of the pre-match entertainment. If anyone - write an email to the NRL.

Plus, don't forget TLE agreed to do this performance - no one made them get up on stage and mime/play to a backing track. Sure - maybe they had no choice in the matter - they may have signed a contract to perform live but on the day it wasn't possible for whatever reason (TLE illness or sound issues etc). But if it wasn't a last minute decision, I'd be surprised if they only found out they wouldn't be playing totally live on the day.

P.S I feel so dirty after sticking up for channel 9 that I think I should go shower....

[stix]

Since a few years back when Billy Idols rig/substage lost power the NRL have decided to not have live sound at big pre-match entertainment events such as the Grand Final/State Of Origin!

I was talking to Rick Grossman (Hoodoo Gurus) about when they played last year for the Grand final. He said they HAD TO play with a backing track (Guitars/Bass/Drums) just in case of complications.
BUT they DID use live vocals!

Microphones are much easier to get working/replace than guitar amps that all require power!

The Living End did this today:

Singing: Live
Guitar, Bass & Drums: Backing Track


Hope this sheds some light on the issue!

I think TLE did a pretty damn good job considering the restrictions in playing to the CD version of the song!!

P.S - Nice earphones Andy :P
Scotts came loose at one stage too!

B-rad/Stix

[Cboris cboris-andy]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=aPj20Wsd9nA

upload this video please =O :eek::o

[Colezy]

This is the link that was posted a few pages ago, but it says its temporarily unavailable.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L57IE6Q5

[Cboris cboris-andy]

:( buu

thanks colezy

[tanguyen]

I was just under the impression that they lip synced because the whole setting up equiptment, mic-ing, volume levels blah blah, would have taken way too long in such a tight schedule. Especially in an outdoor environment, things could sound shocking.

But them Fritz said beforehand, Powderfinger apparently did a killer live set at the AFL final so the argument could go both ways.

I remember watching the Emmanuel brothers at the Sydney Olympics closing ceremony and that I'm pretty sure that was synced. For something as large of a budget as "the olympics" and using sync'ed instruments, it begs the question whether there were that many cons than pros to a proper live set up.

[Colezy]

:( buu

thanks colezy

That's ok :)

Keep trying the link and see if its working.

[Cboris cboris-andy]

yeah :)
thanks:D

[Amur]

Since a few years back when Billy Idols rig/substage lost power the NRL have decided to not have live sound at big pre-match entertainment events such as the Grand Final/State Of Origin!

I was talking to Rick Grossman (Hoodoo Gurus) about when they played last year for the Grand final. He said they HAD TO play with a backing track (Guitars/Bass/Drums) just in case of complications.
BUT they DID use live vocals!

Microphones are much easier to get working/replace than guitar amps that all require power!

The Living End did this today:

Singing: Live
Guitar, Bass & Drums: Backing Track

Hope this sheds some light on the issue!

thank you so much for this info!
now I fell a bit better about whole situation =)
I don't blame TLE (obviously!) but today's perfomance still shocking me anyway...:rolleyes:

[Kacky]

Watching that made me sad. WHAT.THE.FUCK?!

[Kacky]

Where's How Do We Know? I want to watch it...

[Erin]

@ the spectator's version of events-

now i know why there was white smoke :D to hide the band whilst they did sync :p

[Big J.G]

Where's How Do We Know? I want to watch it...

Uploading. But you can still watch the MegaUpload link I provided afew pages back. It has both performances in one video. I did that because I don't know how to split videos without ruining the quality.

[Cboris cboris-andy]

The Living End - White Noise (NRL Grand Final)

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=aPj20Wsd9nA

can upload the video again?

please

thanks :o:o

[Kacky]

Still "temporarily unavailable."

[Big J.G]

The YouTube link works perfectly. You're saying the MegaUpload link doesn't work?

Well, in a couple of hours, my youtube account will have How Do We Know. It's uploading (currently at 31%), and I started it about half an hour ago i think

[Kacky]

Yeah, the MegaUpload link.

[The Dying Start]

Yes, Megaupload link has been "temprarily unavailable" since last night.

[Big J.G]

Currently at 38% (How Do We Know You Tube)

Wow, the video's are 125 MB I just noticed. No wonder it's taking a while.

And all I did was use Windows Movie Maker to split them.

[matt6n]

White Noise doesn't look too bad. I doubt many people would notice its synced.

[Deadcat Kaye]

Anyone woulda noticed if it was lip syncing aswell,apart from that, no one will notice, other muso's might but how many muso's watch the footy? regardless of a good band being on.

[strahanie]

I think general public wouldnt have noticed and we will be better off forgetting bout it, maybe let this thread R.I.P now? Its making sad...

[Chovies]

Sounds stupid but does anyone know that it was actually fake or were the playing live but channel 9 put the studio one over it ( For the TV-ers )

[Kacky]

I don't think it had to do with Channel 9. It probably had to do with the event organizers and how they wanted them to perform it.

[Big J.G]

How Do We Know You: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IlWaCKZKse4

[Kacky]

Thanks! :)

[Big J.G]

You're welcome.

I'm suprised no one noticed the faking on the White Noise vid, after 5 comments.

[Sarah]

Oh and in your sig, they must be saving 21st Century for me this Feb! :)

[mattheal]

The Living End did this today:

Singing: Live
Guitar, Bass & Drums: Backing Track



No Fucking way was that live singing, the difference in quality between the singing and in between the songs when chris makes his joke makes that really obivous,

[Big J.G]

But there were some off bits. Like at the last "All that I'm hearing from you"

The "you..." was alot shorter then what it is normally.

[matt6n]

The singing definitely wasn't straight off the album. Especially noticeable with Scott

[mattheal]

But there were some off bits. Like at the last "All that I'm hearing from you"

The "you..." was alot shorter then what it is normally.

yeah it wasnt the album version but it definatley was not live

[Big J.G]

you can here at the beginning of White Noise video that they played white noise and there was no vocals on it.

So yeah. Masters maybe, lol i dunno.

[Neo]

they were singing live. when chris pulls back from the mic you can hear it, and also he sings them a little differently. no offence to him, but I don't think he'd be able to lip it that well :p

[skitzo12]

twas just getting off from my flight from melbourne when they were playing, so i missed the performance
but id say that yeah, live voxs and backing music.
but it could also be a channel nine direct feed thing.
they have a music feed of the vocals and to be on the safe side they has the music as background, maybe as a reaction to that whole echo affect.

[Deadcat Kaye]

Let's not get too anal about the singing now, Children. :)

[Big J.G]

lol, you used anal and children in the same sentance

[Jonnno]

gotta say everyone should get over it! most bands are put in a position where they have to mime a big show like that, who cares. they should have pulled a muse, that would have been good watchin!

[The Dying Start]

Jonnno pulls a muse every day.

[Jonnno]

Jonnno pulls a muse every day.

and boy is it a sight to see. ;)

[Kacky]

The Megaupload link works now. :)

[Anti-Hero]

I watched this video and think that perfomance wasn't so bad. Because Chris lip synced pretty well! Also there is an echo at such a big stadium, so it sounded naturally.

[smitty]

I thought it was horrible. It filled me with rage. Not at the band. Not at all. I felt sorry for them actually. The vibe I got was that they didnt want to be there - and I wouldnt blame them for that. What a stinking insult to the greatest live band in Australia! I agree with Mick - Powderfinger nailed it at the AFL...TLE would have nailed it here too. I was surprised at my own reaction to be honest....i havent seen any live TLE in a while, so was looking forward to it, but just felt horrible in the guts. You could tell right from the getgo that it was going to be sycnhed, because they started playing White Noise before the boys even got on the stage. I really noticed that the guitar playing and drumming was out of synch with the sound, and yeah, everyone saw Scott with the earpiece. It was funny that they cut out to a really long shot after that happened.

Anyway, id love to know what the band thinks

[The Dying Start]

As would I, Smitty.

[May]

I thought it was horrible. It filled me with rage. Not at the band. Not at all. I felt sorry for them actually. The vibe I got was that they didnt want to be there - and I wouldnt blame them for that. What a stinking insult to the greatest live band in Australia! I agree with Mick - Powderfinger nailed it at the AFL...TLE would have nailed it here too. I was surprised at my own reaction to be honest....i havent seen any live TLE in a while, so was looking forward to it, but just felt horrible in the guts. You could tell right from the getgo that it was going to be sycnhed, because they started playing White Noise before the boys even got on the stage. I really noticed that the guitar playing and drumming was out of synch with the sound, and yeah, everyone saw Scott with the earpiece. It was funny that they cut out to a really long shot after that happened.

Anyway, id love to know what the band thinks
Sorry to see something like this bringin ya out of the woodwork :(

[paulvroc]

Sorry to see something like this bringin ya out of the woodwork :(

hahaha...have a go
i was also filled with disappointment
don't wanna see it happen again, and the sooner i forget, the better

[MODERNART.illery]

i knew it was iffy right from when i saw it last sunday. few things that tipped me off...
- white noise starting when they aren't on stage
- andy's drumming is out of time in how do we know (you)
- scotts earpiece, and the fact he's use an old jazz bass....one that doesn't have pickups installed.
- sustain in how do we know, no pedals, none of chris' amps on stage, vocal clarity
- and the excessive amount of dry ice.

most of those have been mentioned, and there were more. but really a comedy of errors on all parts. channel 9, TLE, event organisers, management. the lot.