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_jimmy_
09-10-2006, 02:29 AM
im sure guitarist have done this during solos or added licks to some of TLE songs.
i have since i learnt about scales 3 months.
share what you have done.
WHITE FALCON
09-10-2006, 02:37 AM
you learnt scales for 3 months?
_jimmy_
09-10-2006, 02:42 AM
whoops, sorry 3 months ago.
WHITE FALCON
09-10-2006, 02:51 AM
bahaha yeah i was gonna say! i get bored after about half and hour!
nah for chris' solo's they are too complicated to just play like a blues scale over. you can stuff around if you realy want to, but i mean wahts the point?
its fun just to do what he does and then add little stuff to it that fits
Julia
09-10-2006, 11:32 AM
Haha, I've been learning scales for years! I don't know whether it's a process that ever ends. And it's great to try and personalise solos, not just with scales, but chord partials, arpeggios etc. One of the joys of playing guitar for me is working out as many different techniques as I can for creating my own leads/tampering with other people's leads.
graverobbin'bastard
09-10-2006, 11:45 AM
when I'm in a band my drum bits change constantly. I change fills alot depending on how I feel at the time hah. The basic beats stay the same though
Sammas
09-10-2006, 01:04 PM
Haha, I've been learning scales for years! I don't whether it's a process that ever ends. And it's great to try and personalise solos, not just with scales, but chord partials, arpeggios etc. One of the joys of playing guitar for me is working out as many different techniques as I can for creating my own leads/tampering with other people's leads.
It doesn't stop, ever. Once you learn scales and their applications in maintaining tonality you start back pedalling and learn how to ignore their applications and how to corrupt tonality. Thats when the real fun starts :D
Strider
09-10-2006, 07:45 PM
So in other words don't worry bout learning scales at all haha I just play whatever sounds good. I'm pretty sure I know when I'm playing within scales cos it sounds right, but I don't "technically" sit down and figure out whether it's musically correct. It can be good to know tho if you don't fall asleep when learning it.
Sammas
09-10-2006, 08:10 PM
Nar it is still definately worth it! Once it all clicks it is just second nature. I haven't learnt a solo in a very long time because it is easy just to improvise. Theory is very essential me thinks.
WHITE FALCON
09-10-2006, 11:54 PM
theory is essential but some of it isnt!!
it is really really boring but when you apply its great and you think "oh shit, theory works :p"
If a song can't be solo'd over with the blues scale, its a song that ain't worth being played! :P
WHITE FALCON
09-11-2006, 04:24 PM
So you dont play many TLE songs?
nah there are some but not many!
no I don't play TLE songs.
I play the Blues and blues influenced rock so there is a big call for the blues scale in what I do :P
WHITE FALCON
09-11-2006, 07:59 PM
ahhh there is nothing like a cheney solo!
blues is great!
jazz is better
the 2 together are awesome!
Kevin
09-11-2006, 09:17 PM
the blues had a baby and they named it rock'n'roll
WHITE FALCON
09-11-2006, 10:15 PM
blues sure did!
it was a mighty good looking/sounding baby aswell!
_jimmy_
09-11-2006, 10:57 PM
does anyone know any kind of scales i should look at that sound cool? im kinda stumped on choosing what to learn. all the basic scales all done.
mel_bound
09-11-2006, 10:59 PM
learn some modes.
Julia
09-11-2006, 11:09 PM
Hrmm, after the basic scales I learnt the diminished, Aeolian, Dorian, Mixolydian, Phrygian, Ionian, Locrian and Lydian. They're just some of the basic modes (as Mel suggested). I also found a Hungarian Gypsy scale somewhere, that's pretty cool. All these different scales just kinda give your leads different flavours, which can make something really simple sound pro. There are so many cool scales out there, it's fun using them all, creating hybrid scales and such.
I don't even want to imagine how many spelling errors I just made.
_jimmy_
09-11-2006, 11:34 PM
spelling errors? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 just kidding. yeah cool, im gonna ask my guitar teacher about all this and not do this stupid song the other student in my guitar class.
Kevin
09-11-2006, 11:51 PM
i really need to go through more scales, theory is something i'm lacking.
Sammas
09-12-2006, 12:18 AM
Don't forget to learn your circle of fifths/fourths. It is crucial to tie everything together, particularly parallel modes.
_jimmy_
09-12-2006, 07:58 PM
theory is good i's reckon, very helpful with song writing
blues is great!
jazz is better
the 2 together are awesome!
the two styles ARE ALWAYS together. They sorta go hand in hand.
_jimmy_
09-16-2006, 05:41 PM
jazz with a blues guitar solo would sound pretty cool
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