Europe - dates TBA (yay for Simon!)

[Rae]

I know..... shock horror. We're working on plans now to get the band to Europe (not just the UK) in 2009. Make sure you're signed up to the email list to find out the details as soon as we have them. Album release plan also in the making. More news soon.

[mattheal]

Oooh How excitment! for all the poms that is :p

[BennyD]

TLE have only really done touring in Australia recently... it would be good to see them rip it up overseas!

[Kacky]

What about CANADA/NORTH AMERICA? :(

Although, a trip to the UK/Europe would be nice. ;P

[Gretsch_WF_08]

What about CANADA/NORTH AMERICA?

I agree, Canada needs TLE...

[Kacky]

YES! Canada needs TLE very much! Two years ago since the Mod Club show!

[patty_ww]

Agreeeeeed!

[Yvonne]

I know..... shock horror. We're working on plans now to get the band to Europe (not just the UK) in 2009. Make sure you're signed up to the email list to find out the details as soon as we have them. Album release plan also in the making. More news soon.

yay for Yvonne too! :woot:

[simonnott]

Excellent news thanks Rae, and Yvonne for the early morning wake-up text!

[RTR_Flo]

Yeeeeeehaaaaah!!!

[tanguyen]

TLE at Kazakhstan!

[Kacky]

Ah, Rae you're killing the Canadian (kid). :p

*Dramatic*

[chiefdave]

great news, european as well as uk dates gives me a good excuse to use up airmiles!

obviously they should play at my new venue in London even tho it is a fraction of the size of the astoria / electric ballroom.

actually if they did the astoria that would probably be my last gig there as they're knocking it down soon - be a good one to go out on.

[The Dying Start]

Is The Astoria really getting knocked down??


Or is that just Astoria Paranoia?

[simonnott]

yes it's getting knocked down, I'm seeing Gaslight Anthem there on Friday, bloody shame.

[The Dying Start]

Damn. I wanna go there. just for the fact that so many awesome bands have played it over the years.

[chiefdave]

Is The Astoria really getting knocked down??


yeah they've already started work outside and some of the bands playing there next year have moved there gigs elsewhere.

[Amur]

Ahhh now I'm so interested! Can't wait to hear some dates announced.
Have to start doing visa for my bf, I can't go to Germany or France or anywhere else alone :p
Would be HAPPY if TLE are going to visit Finland or Sweden. It's so near to Russia :wub:

[Kacky]

Yana, my mom just asked what I wanted for Christmas from Grandma...I said a trip to Europe to see TLE.

Her reply was "Get serious!"

[Yvonne]

Damn. I wanna go there. just for the fact that so many awesome bands have played it over the years.

and I had a song dedicated to me by Beat Union at the Astoria. :woot:

[Kacky]

Yvonne, you're too cute. :p

[Amur]

Yana, my mom just asked what I wanted for Christmas from Grandma...I said a trip to Europe to see TLE.

Her reply was "Get serious!"
hah, that's unfair!:ohmy:
I've started to dream about this trip even before I knew about possible tour!:pinch:
I mean...that "predicted future" thing happened once again :p

[Kacky]

That always happens with me. :p

[RTR_Flo]

Yana, my mom just asked what I wanted for Christmas from Grandma...I said a trip to Europe to see TLE.

Her reply was "Get serious!"

Well, your mum doesn't know you really, does she? :p

[Kacky]

As much as she wants to see TLE again, a trip to Europe for them isn't in her price range! :p

[The Dying Start]

Tell her you weren't talking about her!

[Kacky]

Yeah, f0 realz. I've traveled by myself before. :p

[RTR_Flo]

Also tell her how much you could learn on such a trip - different cultures etc.

[Amur]

and you're gonna meet ME there, such an epic event! :woot:

[Kacky]

Yes! I would LOVE to meet my favourite Russian! :D

[Kacky]

Also tell her how much you could learn on such a trip - different cultures etc.

And if I want to gain experience in the Travel and Tourism field, I'm sure it's the good/right thing to do! ;)

[The Dying Start]

Yes! I would LOVE to meet my favourite Russian! :D

Careful! She has a Kalashnikov under her pillow!

[damo0945]

have we been through this before?

[Amur]

Careful! She has a Kalashnikov under her pillow!
mhm, very funny.
but, I still can shot Chelsea! with photocamera, obviously...:devil:

[The Dying Start]

You're so cute sometimes, Yana!

[Kacky]

mhm, very funny.
but, I still can shot Chelsea! with photocamera, obviously...:devil:

I can't wait for my photo shoot! :innocent:

[Amur]

damn, it's getting harder and harder to believe that I'll be there. i'm afraid of visa/tickets/money problems to occur.also, it's my last year in school so i have exams in may-july.:ermm: hope concerts will be in august-september...mmm...:innocent:

[Kacky]

Hopefully I get a summer co-op in a Travel agency and I end up with some travel deal. :p

[Yvonne]

If they organise stuff now already I'd say they're in May or so.

[Amur]

gosh, I'll be very stressed if so!:mellow:
how can I buy tickets when I don't even know dates for my future exams?grrrrrr.

[Sarah]

take a semester off! :p

[Amur]

take a semester off! :p
hah, nah I can't. I'd like to spend one more year at school, but that's kinda impossible. 10 years education is too fast for me :ninja:
don't wanna go to the Uni :pinch: I'm scared

[May]

If they organise stuff now already I'd say they're in May or so.
Maybe. But young Rae tends to plan a year or so in advance, so it could still be later in the year...?

[chiefdave]

Maybe. But young Rae tends to plan a year or so in advance, so it could still be later in the year...?

nothing seems to have leaked out yet so I would guess that maybe there's a chance of some festivals and they're going to work the dates around that which puts it into summer. Can't see anything getting announced between now and Xmas so even if something is announced right at the start of jan you'd be looking at April onwards.

[E.B.]

The living end european dates!

the living end are very pleased and proud to announce their first european dates for 2009! Along with the unleashing of their new album white noise!

After playing completely sold out shows all over the wide brown land of australia (not to mention some fairly riotous festivals) it seemed such a shame to deprive the good folk across the pond a chance to witness this incredible live experience.


If you're wondering exactly how incredible, this is what rolling stone thinks:

"white noise simply captures the finest live band this country has produced since ac/dc firing on a couple of extra cylinders.
"

it's been a long between drinks for the living end and europe. Not since 1999 have tle hit so many european locations. This time they are fired up and armed with an arsenal of new songs. And rest assured there will be plenty more where that came from.


2008 has been a stellar year for the band in australia, with white noise hitting both the airwaves and the charts hard. White noise has been wildly successful here at home. Debuting at #2 on the national charts, first single white noise was absolutely massive on australian radio, snatching the coveted #1 added track to radio upon release. White noise attained gold status in just one week. To cap all of this off white noise bagged tle the best rock album award at this year's aria awards.


Now we are very excited to announce the release of white noise throughout european territories in early 2009 through v2/cooperative music. Stay tuned for the particulars.


All this news is so delightful that to celebrate there is a special ticket pre-sale organised for people who simply cannot wait to hold them in their hands. This friday december 12 is your chance to get in early... See below for all dates and details.


The living end european tour dates
all shows with middle class rut (sacramento ca)

tue apr 21 - club academy, manchester uk

special pre-sale: Fri dec 12.
Tickets from:
http://www. Artistticket. Com/link/?s=the+living+end

general on sale: Tue dec 16.
Tickets from:
http://www. Artistticket. Com/link/?s=the+living+end

wed apr 22 - koko, london uk

special pre-sale: Fri dec 12.
Tickets from:
http://www. Artistticket. Com/link/?s=the+living+end

general on sale: Tue dec 16.
Tickets from:
http://www. Artistticket. Com/link/?s=the+living+end

thu apr 23 - nouveau casino, paris france
details tba

fri apr 24 - melkweg, amsterdam netherlands
on sale wed dec 17.
Tickets from: Www. Melkweg. Nl and www. Ticketservice. Nl

sat apr 25 - luxor, cologne germany
on sale thu dec 12.
Tickets from : Www. Koelnticket. De

sun apr 26 - postbahnhof, berlin germany
on sale thu dec 12.
Tickets from www. Koka36. De

new album white noise out early 2009 thru v2/cooperative music
www. Thelivingend. Com www. Myspace. Com/thelivingend

[Rae]

Missing your country in this tour??? Don't panic.... there are plans to return to hit up the other countries. Specifically Finland, Sweden, Norway, Belgium and more.

USA/Canada: We are trying to get there but nothing on the agenda yet sorry. We've dedicated so many summer touring periods to the USAm we feel it's important to get to Europe this time.

[Yvonne]

Help! I don't know which shows to attend! :blink:
Cologne and Berlin for sure. But both Paris and Amsterdam? I've never been to Amsterdam so it would be choice. I've been to the UK too often lately, I wanna skip those (sorry Simon)....
sigh.

[drifta_21]

Whoa...sounds good already. BRING IT!! (for the European fans)

[Fundie]

omg how exciting!! Cologne and Berlin for sure, Amsterdam should be possible too.

[simonnott]

Excellent mix of shows there.

[chiefdave]

Missing your country in this tour??? Don't panic.... there are plans to return to hit up the other countries. Specifically Finland, Sweden, Norway, Belgium and more.

does that mean there's no more dates on this run? if not i'll book so flights to catch them on the mainland as well as the 2 UK shows won't be enough for me!

[Fundie]

Really good question...

Will there be a show in nice little Switzerland too?

[Yvonne]

does that mean there's no more dates on this run? if not i'll book so flights to catch them on the mainland as well as the 2 UK shows won't be enough for me!

come to Germany, I still owe you a drink for getting me the Nottingham tickets last year.

[Kacky]

USA/Canada: We are trying to get there but nothing on the agenda yet sorry. We've dedicated so many summer touring periods to the USAm we feel it's important to get to Europe this time.

Take your time Rae, it gives me more time to save up. ;)

But, this is now my chance to go to Germany. :pinch::D

[Kacky]

Specifically Finland, Sweden, Norway, Belgium and more.

Ah, you're killing me. I'm quite the little Travel and Tourism nerd.

Take me with? :p

[chiefdave]

with a bit of luck they'll play Groezrock (http://www.groezrock.be/)

[chiefdave]

probably a bit late in the day to change things but the Manchester gig is the same night AC/DC are playing Manchester which could impact the attendance.

[RTR_Flo]

Just like Yvonne and Fundie - Cologne and Berlin for sure, the rest I'll have to see.. ;)

[Kacky]

Oh man. My dad must know that I'm going through travel withdrawal. He told me this: "If you keep working, getting extra shifts, and save up, I'll let you go." :innocent:

[Amur]

Amsterdam + Cologne... that's my will.:happy:
starting to get visas and such,ugh!

[Kacky]

Good choices, Yana!

[chiefdave]

See Tickets have a Norwich date on sale for 19th April. Bit of an odd place to play unless they're going to add a few more UK dates.

[Moose]

I've bought my tickets for London. Great news.

I'm pleased they aren't a support act this time to bands not in the same league as them. Better venue this time too.

[Rae]

Norwich has just been locked in on the 19th, and a festival in Belgium on the 18th. That's it though - no further shows.

[Kacky]

Thanks Rae!

[RTR_Flo]

Norwich has just been locked in on the 19th, and a festival in Belgium on the 18th. That's it though - no further shows.

That on the 18th is Groezrock Festival - it's now also announced on the offical website!

[BuddyHolly]

Yeah! Finally I'm going to see those guys in Amsterdam! Have beenw waiting a couple of years for them to come over but finally it's going to happen. Should be an awesome show. (Might be seeing them at Groezrock as well) :D

[Kacky]

Should be a good run for the boys. :)

[Fundie]

Ordered my tickets for Cologne and Berlin yesterday. Still not sure about Amsterdam. Flights are really cheap to Amsterdam and Cologne which does not make my decision easier...

[Yvonne]

Ordered my tickets for Cologne and Berlin yesterday. Still not sure about Amsterdam. Flights are really cheap to Amsterdam and Cologne which does not make my decision easier...

you get cheap flights to Amsterdam? there is nothing good really from this end, always with one stopover, seems like there are no direct flights from Stuttgart.

[Fundie]

There is nothing cheap from Zurich, but there is a flight from Basel with Easyjet and it's getting cheaper every day (Today it was like 40 Euros). Maybe you could also fly from Basel?

[Yvonne]

and how do I get to Basel? Train will be like at least 40€ per Person too. :wassat:

[RTR_Flo]

With the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket (Single version). There are direct trains from Ulm to Basel that you can use with it ;)

You could also try to fly from Munich with KLM.

[Yvonne]

You could also try to fly from Munich with KLM.

460 Euros per person.

[Fundie]

[QUOTE=RTR_Flo;210270]With the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket (Single version). There are direct trains from Ulm to Basel that you can use with it ;)QUOTE]

This costs 28 Euros for up to 5 persons plus the flight which is about 40 Euros from Basel to Amsterdam. I think it would be worth to think about it...

[Yvonne]

okay cool I found the Easyjet flight. I hope it will still be there in January, I don't have any money for this month anymore.

[RTR_Flo]

With the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket (Single version). There are direct trains from Ulm to Basel that you can use with it ;)QUOTE]

This costs 28 Euros for up to 5 persons plus the flight which is about 40 Euros from Basel to Amsterdam.

The single ticket for one person costs only 19 Euro. Good luck with the flight, Yvonne!

[Fundie]

okay cool I found the Easyjet flight. I hope it will still be there in January, I don't have any money for this month anymore.

So, you are doing Amsterdam as well? Still thinking about it.

[Kacky]

I'm organizing to go to Germany (always wanted to go there so TLE gives me a better excuse to get there sooner), any suggestions on what to see if I end up going? Might fly into Amsterdam, but at this point, I'm just doing a crazy amount of research to find the cheapest flights, transportation, locations etc.

[Yvonne]

I'm organizing to go to Germany (always wanted to go there so TLE gives me a better excuse to get there sooner), any suggestions on what to see if I end up going? Might fly into Amsterdam, but at this point, I'm just doing a crazy amount of research to find the cheapest flights, transportation, locations etc.

Berlin, Munich, Neuschwanstein Castle, ...

[May]

So our former Exchange Student lives in Belgium, and when I told her, she started hunting down info on the gig. Looks like she'll be going too!

[The Dying Start]

Olya & Vera are trying to get to the German gigs from Ukraine, despite the fact they're gonna have a nightmare time trying to get visas and round up enough dosh. Wish them all the best, and look after them if you see them there!

[simonnott]

Excellent about the extra dates, the word is being spread.

[Yvonne]

mmmmh got my Cologne and Berlin tickets yesterday. now my bank account is on overdraft. sigh :blues:

[Colezy]

Simon, your single is in the mail as of early last week. I just forgot to let you know!

[RTR_Flo]

I'm just doing a crazy amount of research to find the cheapest flights, transportation, locations etc.

From Cologne to Berlin you should try to fly with Germanwings or Tuifly - see you onboard :)

Sightseeing: In Cologne you could have a look at the famous cathedral - but I think it is a little bit overrated. Berlin offers a lot of opportunities where you could go: German Parliament, Brandenburg Gate, "Siegessäule", Potsdamer Platz, etc.

[Kacky]

Yeah, I also did research for tons of airlines in Europe to find the cheapest possible from Cologne-Berlin with return. TUIfly and Germanwings I think are on my list. ;)

[Kacky]

Now all I have to do is find cheap airfare to and from Germany! ;)

[The Dying Start]

Chelsea Airways - Paperplanes R Us

[Madtwins]

Olya & Vera are trying to get to the German gigs from Ukraine, despite the fact they're gonna have a nightmare time trying to get visas and round up enough dosh. Wish them all the best, and look after them if you see them there!

Thanx Glenn, you told everything instead of us :D Yes, here in Ukraine is terrible crisis, we nearly have no job, BUT .... spit on everything, we gonna go to Germany to both gigs and we don't care! Borrow some money from friends and we'll got the needfull sum. Happines that we have close friend in Berlin - George, he will help us with invitation, and we work on it now.

It will be super-duper cool if we meet with Simon and Ivonne there! And with Chelsea!!!! We sure there also will be Yana with Sasha, and also our russian friend Yougurt and Max Sedov from Ukraine, both crazy TLE fans. So it will be a big family :)

Our biggest question is visas. We never was in foreign countries, our foreign passport is clean. But we'll pray for success.

Our question to Ivonne: How quickly and by which transport we can get from Cologne to Berlin?

[Kacky]

It would be pretty awesome if my plans went through. (yn)

[Yvonne]

Our question to Ivonne: How quickly and by which transport we can get from Cologne to Berlin?

there is a cheap flight from Cologne to Berlin, I think with Air Berlin on the 26th of April, leaves at 3 pm. It's about 45 Euros per person and takes about 50 minutes. Train would take longer and probably cost more (I don't think you can buy train tickets so much in advance). My boyfriend and I are on the mentioned flight, as well as Fundie. But, the longer you wait the more expensive it will get....

in other news:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/thetattoogirl/100_5117.jpg
:wub::devil:

[Kacky]

I think I looked at that same flight, Yvonne. While procrastinating on school work. :D

[Kacky]

I just tried to purchase myself some tickets, damn foreign languages. :p

Good thing though, both of the sites don't take PayPal and I would've had a field day if they did.

[RTR_Flo]

I just tried to purchase myself some tickets, damn foreign languages. :p

Go to www.eventim.de , they also offer their site in english language. You can also print out the Berlin ticket directly when you buy it there..

[Madtwins]

It seems that we need to ask our friend George for order this plane tickets for us.
So this flight is the same day as the Berlin gig? So Yvonne what you going to do at night after COLOGNE gig? Is there some place like club or bar tu stay at night?

[Kacky]

Go to www.eventim.de , they also offer their site in english language. You can also print out the Berlin ticket directly when you buy it there..

Thanks! :woot:

[Yvonne]

I don't know where I'm gonna stay after the shows, most likely at friends' places tho.

[Fundie]

there is a cheap flight from Cologne to Berlin, I think with Air Berlin on the 26th of April, leaves at 3 pm. It's about 45 Euros per person and takes about 50 minutes. Train would take longer and probably cost more (I don't think you can buy train tickets so much in advance). My boyfriend and I are on the mentioned flight, as well as Fundie. But, the longer you wait the more expensive it will get....

in other news:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/thetattoogirl/100_5117.jpg
:wub::devil:

The cheap flight was with Germanwings. It departs at 2 o'clock.

[Amur]

ooooh, I can't see this thread! :pinch:
I need to hurry - book flights and buy tickets, but we haven't found out our visa problem yet - Sasha is from Ukraine so it may be impossible to receive Holland visa for him here, in Russia. and I can't go to europe alone. damn.

[Fundie]

Was anyone able to order Tickets for the show in Amsterdam? I am having huge trouble, cause the system isn't accepting my credit card. Did anyone have the same problems?

[Madtwins]

Hmm, maybe closer to the date of gig we'll have another plan to visit Amsterdam too. But now we don't think so. We got to know that invitation also need to be payed ( 20-25 euro ). Dunno if we need two or one? And we can't imagine how many money will be in our wallet at spring 2009. So we can't built huge plans now. :wacko:

[Amur]

Hmm, maybe closer to the date of gig we'll have another plan to visit Amsterdam too. But now we don't think so. We got to know that invitation also need to be payed ( 20-25 euro ). Dunno if we need two or one? And we can't imagine how many money will be in our wallet at spring 2009. So we can't built huge plans now. :wacko:
да кстати - нужно иметь справку-подтверждение что у вас есть с собой 38 евро на человека в день, когда визу получаешь.и ещё доказательства брони отеля, поезда, самолёта и тп :dry:

[Madtwins]

да кстати - нужно иметь справку-подтверждение что у вас есть с собой 38 евро на человека в день, когда визу получаешь.и ещё доказательства брони отеля, поезда, самолёта и тп :dry:
У нас будет приглашение от Жоры - подтверждение что мы у него живем. Отели тогда отпадают. Ну бабла на рыло на день с собой взять можно, но не тратить например - это не проблема одолжить.
гг, щас Гленн наедет :innocent:

[Fundie]

It's finally done - don't know what was wrong this afternoon. I finally ordered my ticket for Amsterdam. Will do defenately 3 Gigs. Will be huge fun to visit 3 cities in just 3 days :)

[Madtwins]

3 gigs it's awesome, we wish to be more wealthy for it :ninja:

[Kacky]

Christmas is sucking me dry for money. A trip to Germany would be so swell though.

[Madtwins]

How much your flight tickets cost?

[Kacky]

I can get one under $1000.00 (or just a little over, but I'm too cheap) with taxes and return.

[Fundie]

Everyone is being crazy (including me) :p

I hope for everyone to get visas and save enough money for it!

Kacky: Where are you from?

[Big J.G]

Canadia.........

[MODERNART.illery]

...canadia?

learn to spell.

you're 2 years older than me, yet you still can't spell the name of a country on the most prominent and influentual land form in the world.

[Big J.G]

I like to call it Canadia, I know its spelt Canada.

[MODERNART.illery]

and this pretty much justifies why in almost every other thread, i call you a demeaning and sometimes nonsensical insult.

[Kacky]

Kacky: Where are you from?

Canadialand! The Great White North, North of the Border...

[Madtwins]

Thanx God!!! Fe found a friend in Cologne! Last summer psychos The Meantraitors was there and we met russan immigrant psycho boy - Max, and he stays at our place . We write to him 2 days ago and wow - we didn't know that he lives in Cologne. So it's good news - now we have place to stay.
He-he, also one our friend who lives in Eberswalde now found out to us a plan how to travel on train through 5 german cities at night for 35 euro for both ;) We dunno, but maybe we'll used this crazy but cheap way from Cologne to Berlin. Still we are Madtwins :woot:

[RTR_Flo]

He-he, also one our friend who lives in Eberswalde now found out to us a plan how to travel on train through 5 german cities at night for 35 euro for both ;) We dunno, but maybe we'll used this crazy but cheap way from Cologne to Berlin. Still we are Madtwins :woot:
Oh, you mean the Weekend ticket by Deutsche Bahn? That 'd be really crazy, you'll travel for about ten hours. So you'll see a lot of Germany's.. ahem - railway stations. :D But you can also try to pick up some people @ the stations to drive with you on the ticket if they give you a bunch of euros.. ;)

How are you flying to Germany? With Wizzair?

[mel_bound]

Sounds like all you European fans are gonna have a hell of a time following TLE around! Have fun and take lots of pics haha.

[Madtwins]

Oh, you mean the Weekend ticket by Deutsche Bahn? That 'd be really crazy, you'll travel for about ten hours. So you'll see a lot of Germany's.. ahem - railway stations. :D But you can also try to pick up some people @ the stations to drive with you on the ticket if they give you a bunch of euros.. ;)

How are you flying to Germany? With Wizzair?
We dunno. Flight from Kiev to Cologne on needfull date still not reported. And it's can be canselled. So we not decided. Our friend used bus one time. It costs 90 euro. Train and other plains more expencive.

Pick up some people it's interesting, but we need to get to Berlin and it's depends from how expenicive will be our tickets from Kiev to De.

[Madtwins]

Sounds like all you European fans are gonna have a hell of a time following TLE around! Have fun and take lots of pics haha.

Thank you Mel! Of couse if we get there we'll not be lazy.

[Jessii]

Look forward to your stories from the tours girls!

[Kacky]

I'm sure they wont disappoint!

[Madtwins]

We spent all new year selebration for discussing of getting visas to germany. For 24 hours we listened 3 different stories about it, and got to know alot. The best was that one our friend was in same situation: it was hist first foreign trip and he's going to live at our friend George apartment. And his story about: "How you got to know this guy?" is the same that ours :) And he got visa and was in Berlin. Difference was that he's got alot of money on his bank account, we not. But we have more hope now.

[chiefdave]

is anyone going to grozerock then coming to the UK for the Norwich gig. being trying to work out how to get back in time with the ferries etc and I can't see how it can be done but it must be possible else the band wouldn't be able to make it!

[Fundie]

No, won't be able to do Grozerock.

Received all my tickets now! For everyone that is going to the gig in Amsterdam make sure you will order a ticket including Membership (which is obvioulsy needed for Melkweg).

Has anyone a hotel/hostel/backpacker recomendation for Berlin (cheap and nice)? Should be somewhere between Ostbahnhof and Airport Tempelhof.

[May]

it must be possible else the band wouldn't be able to make it!
They have their own carpet.

[Kacky]

No, won't be able to do Grozerock.

Received all my tickets now! For everyone that is going to the gig in Amsterdam make sure you will order a ticket including Membership (which is obvioulsy needed for Melkweg).

Has anyone a hotel/hostel/backpacker recomendation for Berlin (cheap and nice)? Should be somewhere between Ostbahnhof and Airport Tempelhof.

I bought a German phrase book last night. My dad and step mom think if I have a "passion" for something then it gives me a better chance at going where I want to go, or do what I want to do.

I'm probably going to order tickets for Cologne and Berlin if all goes as planned (orignally I was going to do Amsterdam and Cologne). Anyone want to split the cost of a room with me if my plans go through? I want a cheap(ish) hotel for both cities, (hostels are okay too).

[Kacky]

You guys must think I'm a complete dork for saying all of that stuff. Dad pretty much talked me out of my (somewhat irrational) plans.

Gives me more time and money to throw at him for his credit card when I do my 8 show adventure.

[Colezy]

So you're not going to Europe?

[Kacky]

By the way my dad told me some things, I was under the impression he was going to let me book it at some point.

[Colezy]

Dang. Would have been so much fun though!

[Kacky]

Yeah, I know.

The boys were going to be used as my excuse for getting there sooner. Dad now calls me a groupie. :pinch:

[Fundie]

Poor Chelsea - let's hope that the guys play some gigs in Canada soon!

[Kacky]

I think another reason for me wanting to get there for them is because it's been so damn long since they've been here. I'm desperate. :p

But yes, Canada soon, please.

[Colezy]

Make sure you still get to Europe at some point though! Don't just not go cos TLE wont be playing!

[Kacky]

Haha, duhhhh. I AM doing Travel and Tourism for my career. :p

[RTR_Flo]

There'll definately be some more European dates later in the year as Rae said. A friend of mine also told me she saw an announcement for a festival gig by TLE but couldn't say which festival it was and also where she saw it. Maybe then you'll have another chance, Chelsea..

[chiefdave]

if anyones been sent tickets for the living dead at koko don't panic, they've messed up and will be sending out tickets with the right name soon.

[Moose]

if anyones been sent tickets for the living dead at koko don't panic, they've messed up and will be sending out tickets with the right name soon.

I got the same and posted a thread earlier - v funny, the mix up that is.

http://www.thelivingend.com/vBforum/showthread.php?t=7757

[Kacky]

There'll definately be some more European dates later in the year as Rae said. A friend of mine also told me she saw an announcement for a festival gig by TLE but couldn't say which festival it was and also where she saw it. Maybe then you'll have another chance, Chelsea..

Maybe I can get there later in the year. :p

I hope they do some places that I really want to go to.

[Yvonne]

too bad Chelsea

[Kacky]

I bought a German language book that I thought would be put to use, bummer. :p

[All_torn_down16]

I reckon you should still learn a bit of German, it's a great language to learn, even if you're not making your way to Germany quite yet.

[Madtwins]

We backed from our hometown, and recognized that we have no any immovables property. That's not good for our image for embassy. But hope is here.
That's a pity that you Chelsea can't visit europe, bot we sure thta TLE will have USA gigs and maybe Canadian too. You can go there, instead we have chances for visiting only Europe. US travel is too expencive for ukrainian.

[Amur]

oh, Chelsea! :blink: I was sure you'll be there just because you dont need a visa, at least.
I'm hoping to get there anyway but our chances are still low. :(

[Kacky]

Well, I haven't told dad about the UK yet, maybe he'd be better off letting me go to a show in a country that speaks English. :p

Meeeeeeeeeh, need to save money anyway.

[Amur]

Have anyone purchased tickets to Amsterdam gig yet?
It says:
Attention! A membership (Eur 3,00) is required for this concert. This membership is valid for one month starting from the date of this concert.
So do I need to pay 6 more euros buying 2 tickets now?:blink:

[Kacky]

No, won't be able to do Grozerock.

Received all my tickets now! For everyone that is going to the gig in Amsterdam make sure you will order a ticket including Membership (which is obvioulsy needed for Melkweg).

Has anyone a hotel/hostel/backpacker recomendation for Berlin (cheap and nice)? Should be somewhere between Ostbahnhof and Airport Tempelhof.

Yup, sure do.

[Amur]

thanks =)
well I bought these 2. need to order tickets to cologne now.
+ collect all the documents to get us visas :mellow:

[Kacky]

Good luck, girlfriend!

I seriously wish I could talk my dad back into this. :p

[Amur]

Good luck, girlfriend!

I seriously wish I could talk my dad back into this. :p
is there any chance atm?:ermm: I really want to meet you, finally! And it's such a great occasion!

[Madtwins]

Yeah we also want to meet you :flowers: is it woeks if you offers to your dad some terms? When we was 17 years old and want to go to Kiev to Mad Heads gig from Chernivtsy we said to our mother - we studying well and collect some money for train tickets (we was good kids) so allow us to do it. Unfortunately fe fight for this aim four days, but in the end we won it!

[Kacky]

Now I might have to! Have to meet my favourite Russian and Ukranians!

[Yvonne]

I think Amsterdam is off for us. I just looked at hotels and the dumpsters close to the venue are 130€ a night (230 Aussie$). I would've wanted to stay two nights to at least try to see a bit of Amsterdam and the plane or train tickets to and from there will be in that price category too so there is no way I can / want to afford this.

If there is really gonna be a return of the band to Europe later in the year two shows will have to be enough for now.

[Amur]

I think Amsterdam is off for us. I just looked at hotels and the dumpsters close to the venue are 130€ a night (230 Aussie$). I would've wanted to stay two nights to at least try to see a bit of Amsterdam and the plane or train tickets to and from there will be in that price category too so there is no way I can / want to afford this.

If there is really gonna be a return of the band to Europe later in the year two shows will have to be enough for now.
I doubt we're going to visit Berlin...It will be Amsterdam and Cologne (cos there's a bus from one city to another for 18euros, 4 hrs).

[Madtwins]

I doubt we're going to visit Berlin...It will be Amsterdam and Cologne (cos there's a bus from one city to another for 18euros, 4 hrs).
Wow! Cool price for bus, but not cool for hotels, we'll could only hang out on the streets at night if we bring ourselves to get there too.

[Yvonne]

does anybody want to buy my 2 tickets for Amsterdam?

[Amur]

does anybody want to buy my 2 tickets for Amsterdam?
good way: sell it to someone on here for the same price (while there are still tickets on that site)
bad way: wait til april 10th and sell it on ebay for triple price :p

[Yvonne]

yeah I would prefer the money now and offer them for the actual price (incl. membership to the venue).

[Amur]

So I tried to order tickets for Cologne and it required 35 more euros for transaction fee. Did it happen with anyone else? That's such an enormous price to pay!:huh:
Heh if I don't change page's language to english, it says only 10 euro for international shipping and no additional transaction fees is mentioned. so what shall I do?

[Madtwins]

so i tried to order tickets for cologne and it required 35 more euros for transaction fee. Did it happen with anyone else? That's such an enormous price to pay!:huh:
Heh if i don't change page's language to english, it says only 10 euro for international shipping and no additional transaction fees is mentioned. So what shall i do?
Яна напиши Йогурту, спроси его, он сотни раз ездил на концерты, может подскажет.

[Madtwins]

Woo-hoo #1! We got our german invitations today. Our friend Gerorge pass it through Berlin-Kiev train with his friend, so our first step for getting visa is done. Also George said that he purchased TLE gig tickets for us but they didn't arrived on time when his friend go back to Kiev, so he'll pass them later. But WE GOT TICKETS to Kologne and Berlin gigs :laugh:
Also we was at ukrainian web-site of German embassy and read FAQ about getting visa. It was totally pressing. Especially parts where they directly and openly saying that they heared 100 fake stories from people who want to stay in Germany illegal and "don't you think you can cheat us". Also we need to bring proofs of our friendship with person who invite us and photos isn't work. We hope that fact that we did a cartoon Smereka about our friend and Mad Heads in 2003 will be enough!
Does your country German-embassy asking for such stuff???

[Kacky]

As far as I know, I don't need a visa if I'm there for less than 90 days. Anyway. Dad claims his credit card doens't have enough credit on it anymore. I won't believe him until he gives me proof. :p

[Amur]

As far as I know, I don't need a visa if I'm there for less than 90 days. Anyway. Dad claims his credit card doens't have enough credit on it anymore. I won't believe him until he gives me proof. :p
of course Chelsea doesn't need visa cause Canada, as well as Australia and USA are these "normal" countries where residents have a right to travel all around the world without stupid limits. :ermm:

[Kacky]

Yeah, that is what sucks for you guys! Marry me and I will make you Canadian, then I will get you there easier. :p

[Amur]

Yeah, that is what sucks for you guys! Marry me and I will make you Canadian, then I will get you there easier. :p
if so, we have to find where to register our same-sex marriage first :laugh:

[Kacky]

It's legal in Canada! :D

[Amur]

It's legal in Canada! :D
o rly?:blink:
hm.

[Kacky]

Sure is Yana! :) :p

[Madtwins]

Can't believe - life is easy in Canada!

[Kacky]

You girls can marry me too, it's ok. :p

[mel_bound]

Is polygamy also legal in Canada? :p

[Kacky]

My friend Jess says that I'm going to be a polygamist, as well as a burlesque dancer. *Shifty*

[RTR_Flo]

The Living End have just been confirmed for the Austrian Nova Rock (http://www.novarock.at/) Festival in June.

[Big J.G]

wow.

The boys do get around.

[Madtwins]

European gig at summer is cool. Maybe it's will be more of them.
We check the Austrian fest sey list. Heared that Metallica gig also will be in Kiev this year. We'll be happy to exchange them for TLE :innocent:

[RTR_Flo]

European gig at summer is cool. Maybe it's will be more of them.
There'll be definately much more gigs in Europe this year - just as they said in the interview that was posted in another thread..

[Amur]

There'll be definately much more gigs in Europe this year - just as they said in the interview that was posted in another thread..
which interview?:unsure:

[RTR_Flo]

The Videohits one..

[Kacky]

Maybe I'll save up and do another summer trip...it's been way too damn long so I'm going to see them any way possible.

[Madtwins]

We are on the way to Germany. Any steps back!

[Yvonne]

The Living End have just been confirmed for the Austrian Nova Rock (http://www.novarock.at/) Festival in June.

fuck that shit, I ain't paying 109 Euros to see TLE play half an hour in a country full of people who can't speak German properly. :ninja::woot:

[RTR_Flo]

fuck that shit, I ain't paying 109 Euros to see TLE play half an hour in a country full of people who can't speak German properly. :ninja::woot:

Well, I think you spent more money on the Dropkick Murphys tour in 2006 - so never say never.. :laugh:

But it's a good sign to see the first European festival gig announced, I hope to go to some solo gigs between the festival dates..

btw: For anyone who haven't booked any transportation from Cologne to Berlin: Tuifly.com sells tickets up from 20 Euros until Sunday..

[Erajka]

hello...im new in this forum so sorry it the question have been asked before..but does anyone knows if they're coming to Sweden ?

[RTR_Flo]

@Erajka: Nice to see you made your way from youtube to this forum..

This has been posted in December:
Missing your country in this tour??? Don't panic.... there are plans to return to hit up the other countries. Specifically Finland, Sweden, Norway, Belgium and more.

[Yvonne]

Well, I think you spent more money on the Dropkick Murphys tour in 2006 - so never say never.. :laugh:



that may be right but the tickets for those shows were nowhere near 109 Euros, not even all 3 of them added together. I'd still have to pay for transportation to that place and sleep somewhere, as well as having to put up with Austrians. :ohmy:

[Amur]

that may be right but the tickets for those shows were nowhere near 109 Euros, not even all 3 of them added together. I'd still have to pay for transportation to that place and sleep somewhere, as well as having to put up with Austrians. :ohmy:

you're only not happy cause they don't speak german?
I feel a little worried about european trip also because I can't speak dutch or german at all! only english, but I don't have enough practice to feel free speaking it.

[Colezy]

Wooo, all of the TLE European fans are coming out of the woodwork!! :D

[Kacky]

I LOVE Europeans. :p

[Yvonne]

people don't see the irony.

[Kacky]

Meaning...?

[RTR_Flo]

It's the same as if somebody from the UK writes he doesn't want to see TLE in Australia cause he can't understand the language of the people who live there ;)

[Kacky]

Ahh, now I getya.

[Yvonne]

or more like Australians and New Zealanders are always in competition who is better, cooler etc. add to that that Austria is smaller than Germany and we're not supposed to like them, just like the Austrians talk bad about Germany.
Plus I sometimes really don't understand them. Fucked up German, that.

[Kacky]

I didn't realize that Austrian German was so different!

[Madtwins]

That's all means nothing to us. Language etc... We can uderstand you Ivonne anly because you was at TLE gigs before, and you sure to be on them in future. This is our main point why we don't care now about money and all stuff.
Of course we also worried about our travel to Germany but not to much. George said to us that all people there knows english. We don't know it wery well but it was enough to communicate with Mad Sin guys, and others who we met here. We sure everything will be OK because it's will be a trip on true and pure feelings and thoughts about band we love.

[mel_bound]

If everyone just spoke English we wouldn't have this problem

:p
best of luck to everyone, I hope you all meet up and have some wicked partying at these gigs

[Yvonne]

That's all means nothing to us. Language etc... We can uderstand you Ivonne anly because you was at TLE gigs before, and you sure to be on them in future. This is our main point why we don't care now about money and all stuff.
Of course we also worried about our travel to Germany but not to much. George said to us that all people there knows english. We don't know it wery well but it was enough to communicate with Mad Sin guys, and others who we met here. We sure everything will be OK because it's will be a trip on true and pure feelings and thoughts about band we love.

everything will be fine, don't worry. everyone will LOVE you two!! ;)

[Amur]

now I have ordered tickets to both gigs for us.
waiting for them to arrive in the mail! :laugh:
this weekend I'm going to Finland just to use my shengen visa at least once. I was afraid that I wouldn't get visa to Netherlands because of unused visa to Finland!:ohmy:
now it should be fine. should be. ahh!:wacko:

[Amur]

people don't see the irony.
if it was reffering to my post, then I'd say that I understood you as well =)
we have same thing between russia and ukraine. I mean - there's no difference at all (beside language and accents) when you meet each other in face, but there are lots of stereotypes around these races.

[Madtwins]

Thank you Yvonne :D
An Amur is right about russians and ukarinians. It's the same axcept one thing - ukrainians understand and talk russian language very vell, but russians don't.

[Big J.G]

Apparently russians hate ukranians, well just my russian friend anyway.

[Amur]

Apparently russians hate ukranians, well just my russian friend anyway.
I share my life with one of them, so...no, we don't hate ukrainians.:p

[Madtwins]

Pleace, we have more russian real friends than ukarinians. But this is spam.

[Colezy]

Ignore him.

[Big J.G]

Yeah, never mind.

I've been educated enough.

[Fundie]

or more like Australians and New Zealanders are always in competition who is better, cooler etc. add to that that Austria is smaller than Germany and we're not supposed to like them, just like the Austrians talk bad about Germany.
Plus I sometimes really don't understand them. Fucked up German, that.

I am wondering what you'd say about the Swiss German :D

btw have found a nice little hostel/hotel (not sure what it exactly is) in Amsterdam, which is near from the central trainstation. it's quit cheap. I made a reservation for a single room (as I'm on my own :pinch:)

www.hotelbrian.com

Hope you haven't sold your tickets yet.

[Yvonne]

I am wondering what you'd say about the Swiss German :D

btw have found a nice little hostel/hotel (not sure what it exactly is) in Amsterdam, which is near from the central trainstation. it's quit cheap. I made a reservation for a single room (as I'm on my own :pinch:)

www.hotelbrian.com

Hope you haven't sold your tickets yet.

I haven't but I bought a train ticket for 29 Euros from Ulm to Cologne last week. Can't get any cheaper to either Amsterdam or Cologne. Would always be at least 80 Euros to fly or take train.

[Fundie]

bummer!

It's a huge difference if you'd pay 29 or 80. Also got a cheap train ticket from Amsterdam to Cologne for 29 Euros.

to everyone who will be travel from Amsterdam to Cologne: Buy your train ticket now (online), they have offers for 29 Euros.

Where will you guys sleep in Cologne - still try to find a cheap hostel, but not sure which one to book.

[Yvonne]

Where will you guys sleep in Cologne - still try to find a cheap hostel, but not sure which one to book.

at the IBIS hotel, double room is 64 €. It's only 500m from the venue.

[Fundie]

They have a special but non refundable rate of 49 Euros. Maybe I'll go for that one... thanks for the hint!

[Yvonne]

no problem. didn't think you'd stay at a hotel tho. :p
we're staying with friends in Berlin.

[Fundie]

Hotel is booked - all done now :)

I think this is one of the best offers you can get.

I will stay at a Hostel in Berlin near from the venue.

[Amur]

to everyone who will be travel from Amsterdam to Cologne: Buy your train ticket now (online), they have offers for 29 Euros.

where did you find this offer?:ermm:
trying to go through all these ticket sites

[Yvonne]

there is just one. www.bahn.de

[Fundie]

where did you find this offer?:ermm:
trying to go through all these ticket sites

http://www.deutschebahn.com/site/bahn/en/start.html

But it's really strange they had 3 direct ICE connections on saturday afternoon and now they don't appear anymore...

The connection I got for 29 Euros departs at 14:34 and I'll arrive in Colone at 17.12. Maybe you'll find this and we can travel together :flowers:

[Amur]

http://www.deutschebahn.com/site/bahn/en/start.html

But it's really strange they had 3 direct ICE connections on saturday afternoon and now they don't appear anymore...

The connection I got for 29 Euros departs at 14:34 and I'll arrive in Colone at 17.12. Maybe you'll find this and we can travel together :flowers:
yeah, cool :p
thanks for the links!
my amsterdam tickets arrived today!hooray
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1891010/3179126/x_1b431ae4.jpg

[Amur]

didn't find same trip, unfortunately! nothing for 29, too
EDIT: ahh, it goes from another train station! departs at 13:23 and arrives at 17:12...costs 19euros

[Fundie]

I have the feeling that Deutsche Bahn changed something with the trains. I wrote an E-Mail asking which connection I now can take. But it seems like that there are no direct connections from Amsterdam to Colone at the weekend of 25./26. April.

I have a trainticket for a train which isn't running - haha how ridiculus is that. Hope I get some of my money back, the cheapest traintickets are now 19 Euros.

Yea - it's interesting that you need in fact 2 tickets to get into the venue!

[Fundie]

I think they will rebook me on the train which departs at 13.22. That one arrives the same time my original connection would have (but one hour longer travel time :( )

[Amur]

I think they will rebook me on the train which departs at 13.22. That one arrives the same time my original connection would have (but one hour longer travel time :( )
4 hours isn't so bad actually, I expected 6-7 (if taking bus).
that's why I'm afraid to buy tickets now - we may not get visas (which is quite impossible, but anyway!!!) and it's hard to get money back then. especially for plane tickets :sleep:

[Fundie]

Sure it's not too bad, but the other connection was quicker.

I think you won't get much money back fro the train, cause the cheap once are special rates with special conditions.

Try to figure out what I can do now, called deutsche bahn but the guy I was speaking to wasn't really helpful...

[Madtwins]

Yeah we also don't buy any air tickets before we got visa.
Amur - cool to see your tickets, congrats.
We are in bad mood today :( Lanlord of our apartment is *ucking greedo and JAMF !!! He start a quarrel with us because he want the old (before crisis) prise from us. He said today - prices changed but nothing changed to me, and said that he throw us out. So we sure need looking for new apartment now and need moove to new one at the beginning of March. It's a crazy! Why now when we collecting money for TLE trip and don't planned to spent any dollar for any other **cking stuff!!!! Why always such events in our life come across with such troubles?

[chiefdave]

The Living End have just been confirmed for the Austrian Nova Rock (http://www.novarock.at/) Festival in June.

hopefully this means they'll do Donington which is the weekend before. Andy Copping (who books the bands) loves bands like TLE so I can't see him saying no to them.

[Ben reed]

nova rock has a great lineup!
if i lived in austria i'd be there!

[Fundie]

Yeah we also don't buy any air tickets before we got visa.
Amur - cool to see your tickets, congrats.
We are in bad mood today :( Lanlord of our apartment is *ucking greedo and JAMF !!! He start a quarrel with us because he want the old (before crisis) prise from us. He said today - prices changed but nothing changed to me, and said that he throw us out. So we sure need looking for new apartment now and need moove to new one at the beginning of March. It's a crazy! Why now when we collecting money for TLE trip and don't planned to spent any dollar for any other **cking stuff!!!! Why always such events in our life come across with such troubles?

That really sucks! All is going to work out at the end *fingerscrossed*

[Madtwins]

Thank you for kind words. Our friend in Berlin got our tickets for both deutchland gigs. Friend of his wife will back to Kiev close to 22 of February. So we prepare all parers for embassy to this date and than ... hope everything will be fine.

[RTR_Flo]

The Cologne concert has been moved from the Luxor (capacity of 400 people) to the Gloria theater (capacity of 900 people).

[Madtwins]

Wow, that's means they sold more tickets. What they said about people who already buyed tickets with Luxor place?

[Kacky]

The Cologne concert has been moved from the Luxor (capacity of 400 people) to the Gloria theater (capacity of 900 people).

That's cool.

[RTR_Flo]

Wow, that's means they sold more tickets. What they said about people who already buyed tickets with Luxor place?

They will still be valid for the new venue. ;)

[Yvonne]

FUCK THAT SUCKS!!! I booked a hotel 500m away from the Luxor. At least I got a refundable rate, but Fundie didn't.
it's good for them but bad for the fans who need to be in front row. :mellow:

[Yvonne]

Fundie: the IBIS is now about 800m from the new venue. I still booked a new, better hotel tho. :p

[Madtwins]

We will be in a first row :)
Yvonne can you tell us the name of the street where are Berlin gig will be? We want to check how far we will be. For Cologne it's not very important because we arrived after 17th o'clock, so we guess we'll be on the streets before gig.

[Fundie]

I knew I should have booked a room with the more expensive rate. Well, still not too bad and the club is at least still in walking distance. Would have been nice to stay at the same hotel and travel to Berlin together though (Guess we still will do that :) )

Where will you stay now?

Flo: Where did you find this information? The Gloria Theater does not state TLE yet.

[RTR_Flo]

Flo: Where did you find this information? The Gloria Theater does not state TLE yet.
On the sites of kktlive (German booker) and Prime Entertainment (local booker).

[Yvonne]

Where will you stay now?

the Mercure. Really good hotel-chain.

[Yvonne]

Ivonne can you tell us the name of the street where are Berlin gig will be?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/thetattoogirl/100_5117.jpg

ignore the top ticket now of course.

[Kacky]

Flo: Where did you find this information? The Gloria Theater does not state TLE yet.

It's on their MySpace too.

[Fundie]

Thanks guys.

I would have prefered the smaler venue :(

[Yvonne]

me too. I know I have to be there like 2 hours early to get into front row and I don't wanna travel 600 kilometres to end up in the middle somewhere where I can't see anything. After all I'm Germany's biggest TLE fan. :ninja:

[Fundie]

I totally understand you! My advantage is that I'm quit tall and it's not that fatal if I'm not gonna make it in the very first row. But it's still nice to stand there :happy:

I am Switzerlands biggest TLE Fan (if not the only one :p) as far as I can tell :wub:

[Amur]

I am definitely russian biggest fan :D
hehe, and we all will meet together!
oh, i'm not happy with bigger venue, too.:ermm: we'll be in Cologne only at 17:20, I guess, but how early should we arrive to be in the first row?? when concert starts?

capacity of melkweg oude zaal is 700.

[RTR_Flo]

After all I'm Germany's biggest TLE fan. :ninja:

Well, you're a little bit little for that, aren't you? :p
But their will be much fans from Germany doing both gigs and much more after all I've heard.

I'm hoping for smaller locations when TLE are in countries like Italy or Switzerland later in the year.

[Madtwins]

We sure Yvonne is the biggest german TLE fan! In fact she have a TLE tatoo - can anybody beat it?
Ha-ha! We super sure we are the biggest Ukrainian TLE fans! But we think the best description to all of us it's "the most devoted fan". Because Vadim from Mad Heads was ukrainian TLE fan before us, and Yougurt is elder russian TLE fan (he's most known and respectfull underground psychobilly guy from Snt.Petersburg). An he's also waited for this chanse along time and going to be in Berlin.
We are short, and Amur too, so pleace all tall boys stand back! But we are always fight for first row alot of times in our lives. And we fearless and tuff girls in this question! But it seems that in the first row will be only friends from this board, so it will be easy for us all.

[Kacky]

After all I'm Germany's biggest TLE fan. :ninja:

I can say the same, but for Canada. :innocent: :ninja:

[Madtwins]

We sure - it's true about Canada.

[Yvonne]

We sure Yvonne is the biggest german TLE fan! In fact she have a TLE tatoo - can anybody beat it?

not only the tatt. I've seen TLE 9 times so far. none of these shows were in my home country Germany. I travelled all the way to the US to see them, as well as the UK twice.

This wasn't supposed to be a competition. I still win it nonetheless. :woot:

[Madtwins]

This posts about who is the biggest fan it's just a cute jokes :happy:
We respect such travelling as you done. For people like us it's excessivly expencive. We really have chanse to travel to germany only now because we live for our own money and we saved up some bucks through 4 years. But this travel is still a madness. We keep it in secret from our mother because she never understand us in our passions and now her salary is a little more from 60 euro per month. And here is a crisis in country now. So it's good that we live in different towns.
Anyway nobody's opinion about how stupid and risk we cut down our budget can't stop us from this decision. We never saw TLE live before and years going buy - that's our reason.

[Fundie]

This is going to be such big fun to meet you all at the shows!

Amur: When will you arrive in Amsterdam? I think my flight will arrive around 5 o'clock, so I won't be able to be at Melkweg before 6 I guess.