AFL - Whats your favourite AFL team???

[the_cyber_dalek]

Well, the obvious answer for everyone here should be Adelaide Crows...
i am a Mad Crows supporter and have been since the day i was born (seriously, lol).

Now, who is your team?

[Jawn]

I can't get enough of the Dolphins. They will win the Cup this year!!

[Jodez]

:p

BOMBERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

I <3 Mark Johnson

[the_cyber_dalek]

I can't get enough of the Dolphins. They will win the Cup this year!!

The Dolphins Eh? Yeah, Strong team, hard to beat.... i think the will win the flag..... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Jawn]

You better believe it.

[damo0945]

The Dolphins Eh? Yeah, Strong team, hard to beat.... i think the will win the flag..... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

haha my dad used to play for the dolphins in our local league... they still hold the record for most premierships in a row: 4

but yeah i got born into a geelong supporting family and i don't think thats ever going to change

[Jawn]

Your local dolphins team sucks compared to the real Dolphins.

[Strider]

Eagles. 2006 PREMIERS!!!

[the_cyber_dalek]

Eagles. 2006 PREMIERS!!!

you mean 2006 losers.... Im sorry. i really hate WCE. i was at the Adelaide vs WCE Prelim match last year, and Adelaide led the whole wat until 10 minutes til final siren. Straight after Biglands went down we got smashed in ruck.... Awww WEC...:mad:

[Strider]

Well if we BEAT Adelaide in Adelaide twice last year, then surely we are worthy of 2006 premiers. You're just a sour grape I'm sorry to say. I actually don't mind Adelaide, I would have rather have played them off in the GF as apposed to destroying their chances in both prelim's in the last 2 years. But that's the way the cookie crumbles :)

[Loo C]

I go for Sydney. So therefore I have to hate anyone who barracks for the Eagles....sorry Strider! :p

[Neryssah]

I'm obligated to go for Brisbane, what with current location and all. But unofficially, I like St Kilda. And, depending who they're playing, WCE.

I'll go for anybody who's playing Sydney too. Bleugh.

[GoodOrEvil]

West Coast Eagles. Everyone in the family goes for them, and no one likes a Freo supporter. Though, I like Port Power, they have cool looking uniforms >.>

[Julian]

Port Adelaide

[damo0945]

Port Adelaide

you mean you ditched your old team when the new guys came? ;)

[the_cyber_dalek]

Well if we BEAT Adelaide in Adelaide twice last year, then surely we are worthy of 2006 premiers. You're just a sour grape I'm sorry to say. I actually don't mind Adelaide, I would have rather have played them off in the GF as apposed to destroying their chances in both prelim's in the last 2 years. But that's the way the cookie crumbles :)

Its only because at the end of the year, all our best players were injured. Including the Adel vs WCE. And as soon as our Ruckman went down, we got destroyed. We had no one in ruck, so you just got goals.

[the_cyber_dalek]

you mean you ditched your old team when the new guys came? ;)


WCE were there before Freo :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Julian]

He meant Adelaide before Port

[mel_bound]

I go for Sydney but I live in Melbourne. Shame shame shame. But I hate football anyway, so it pans out nicely :rolleyes:

[`Julia]

I go for the Saints. I guess it's mainly because nearly my whole family does... [/Inserts other reason for barracking for St. Kilda]

[Neo]

Sydney 4 lyfe yo.

[Brady]

http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/stories/Adelaide_C_m1064149.jpg

through and through! I don't mind West Coast either, and I'll go for Brisbane when they're winning because I live in Queensland now.

I hate Collingwood, don't like the Bulldogs. I have a long standing deep seated dislike/distrust of Port Adelaide that goes waaay back to the days when I used to watch them in the SANFL. My and my friend were North Adelaide supporters.

[Strider]

I go for Sydney. So therefore I have to hate anyone who barracks for the Eagles....sorry Strider! :p

It's okay, I hate Sydney haha Nothing gave me greater pleasure than beating them by 1 point.

[Strider]

Its only because at the end of the year, all our best players were injured. Including the Adel vs WCE. And as soon as our Ruckman went down, we got destroyed. We had no one in ruck, so you just got goals.

Excuses excuses. We had about 6 key players out of the 2005 Grand Final (and in games leading up to that, including the Adelaide vs Eagles at Subiaco) but we still were able to win. Good teams should have the depth to cover injuries. And considering Adelaide probably has the best side in the league for depth in their squad, I think that is a poor excuse. I think the real reason we came back and won is because sides get puffed out by the 3rd/4th quarter and then we just run over them. Look what we did to Geelong last year.

[Julian]

You can't do much when your main ruckman goes down near the end of the game when your back up is a 30+ year old veteran

[Strider]

Actually, I disagree with that. I've seen sides lose ruckmans in a game and then use small forwards in ruck just as a ploy. And it's worked. At the end of the day (injuries aside) it's the best team on the day.

[Liz]

Go the Crows. :cool:

[Johnny_Wah]

Richmond.




Stop laughing

[Sabrestorm]

I'm with you Johnny! Carn the tigers

[Kev]

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/526/collingwood24wn.gif

[kyle_182]

i go for the eagles and i hate freo

[the_cyber_dalek]

Go the Crows. :cool:

YAY! you are my new favourite person on this forum... Oh, and that person that used to be obsesed with Doctor Who..........

[Dthwestcoast]

i think my username should make it plain as possible

[worry_rock]

THE MIGHTY (or formerly mighty) ESSENDON BOMBERS! Love them to bits. I have Essendon slippers, corkboard, stickers, calendar etc. It's really quite sad. Anyway...yay new AFL thread.

In the Herald Sun from a few days ago, the Essendon article about our new young recruits had me pissing myself. "Dean Dick, son of Willie." THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE CALLED WILLIE DICK. That is too funny. Seriously.

And AFL really brings out the worst in people. Like our good friend Strider here. Now he and I are friends...BUT HE IS THE MOST ANNOYING, FRUSTATING, GAYLORD PERSON EVER WHEN HE'S GOING ON AND JUSTIFYING EVERY WEST COAST THING. And I'm probably the same. Which proves my point.

Anyway, I'm here patiently awaiting season 2007 :)

[cdejonge]

I go for Hawthorn. No further comments.

Chaz, I still have that topless full page poster thing of Llyody for you.

[worry_rock]

Chaz, I still have that topless full page poster thing of Llyody for you.

Stop spelling Lloydy wrong! When will you learn Camzy! Haha. Yeah, Lloydy has had a baby in the past couple of months too - a girl. I've forgotten the name. But I remember thinking it sucked haha.

[Liz]

YAY! you are my new favourite person on this forum... Oh, and that person that used to be obsesed with Doctor Who..........

Haha. Where abouts in SA are you?

[cdejonge]

I'm sorry :(

But I pray for you still. Does that make up for it?

[Strider]

THE MIGHTY (or formerly mighty) ESSENDON
And AFL really brings out the worst in people. Like our good friend Strider here. Now he and I are friends...BUT HE IS THE MOST ANNOYING, FRUSTATING, GAYLORD PERSON EVER WHEN HE'S GOING ON AND JUSTIFYING EVERY WEST COAST THING. And I'm probably the same. Which proves my point.

Anyway, I'm here patiently awaiting season 2007 :)

If you were on the other team, and sat near me at a game. You'd think I was biggest prick you've ever met in your life lol I need to tone down a little, I get way too fired up hahaha And yes, you're exactly the same u Essendon supporting freak.

No matter who gets in the Grand Final this year, I've alread book my trip to Melb! So I will be experiencing a Grand Final this year at the MCG :D

[Julian]

Lol I refuse to go near my Dad at a footy game. And i'm not exactly that quiet :p

[private_eye]

i'm flying to perth to see the Maestro's last game

[Julian]

What if Essendon make the finals























HAHAHAHAHA

[private_eye]

thats precisely why i'm flying to perth... it ain't gunna happen

[the_cyber_dalek]

Haha. Where abouts in SA are you?


South Fleurieu Peninsuler :D

[Julian]

Am I the only Adelaidian now?

[Strider]

That'd be like saying "What if Essendon win a game"
lol just kidding.

[Jawn]

I'd like to think of myself as a calm, reasonable Hawthorn supporter and that I am in no way rabid. Except for when it comes to Essendon. Fuck, I hate those guys. I actually lived by the motto last season that "it didn't matter where Hawthorn came, as long as it was above Essendon." my second goal was "all things are good as long as Essendon finish at the bottom." That didn't quite work out, but it still felt good that Essendon are a steaming pile of shit and are a useless side. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy.



Oh, I also hate any interstate side. Fucking foreigners. But I hate them less than I hate Essendon.

[Watty]

Fremantle all the way!! :)

[Jodez]

THE MIGHTY (or formerly mighty) ESSENDON BOMBERS! Love them to bits. I have Essendon slippers, corkboard, stickers, calendar etc. It's really quite sad. Anyway...yay new AFL thread.

In the Herald Sun from a few days ago, the Essendon article about our new young recruits had me pissing myself. "Dean Dick, son of Willie." THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE CALLED WILLIE DICK. That is too funny. Seriously.

And AFL really brings out the worst in people. Like our good friend Strider here. Now he and I are friends...BUT HE IS THE MOST ANNOYING, FRUSTATING, GAYLORD PERSON EVER WHEN HE'S GOING ON AND JUSTIFYING EVERY WEST COAST THING. And I'm probably the same. Which proves my point.

Anyway, I'm here patiently awaiting season 2007 :)


OMG Dean Dick so of Wiliie??!?!?! I feel sorry for that kid :p
Anyhoo BOMBERS RULE

Yeah and so does Mark Johnson

See the bombers fly UP UP

[private_eye]

Essendon are a steaming pile of shit and are a useless side.
hehe, i like it when people say that about essendon especially when they barrack for an equally, if not moreso (i'd say moreso especially in recent years) 'steaming pile of shit'...

but we have kepler bradley. and campo.

[Jodez]

i love you! :p
Camp IS shit

[Strider]

hehe, i like it when people say that about essendon especially when they barrack for an equally, if not moreso (i'd say moreso especially in recent years) 'steaming pile of shit'...

but we have kepler bradley. and campo.

As a true AFL supporter you're supposed to go for one team, and hate all the other teams equally. But for some reason we all tend to have specific teams we hate more than others. And for me that is Sydney!!!

[Jawn]

hehe, i like it when people say that about essendon especially when they barrack for an equally, if not moreso (i'd say moreso especially in recent years) 'steaming pile of shit'...

but we have kepler bradley. and campo.

Oh I know. I'm not hiding the fact that Hawthorn is useless. It just softens the hurt when I see Essendon are just as shit, if not doing worse.

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

I havn't decided on a team yet since moving to melbourne...I have no idea. I might just have to go for the one with the cutest boys.

[Emily]

In that case you should be heading towards the Hawks.;)
I never decided i would go for them, i just have for as long as i remember. :confused:
Essendon and Collingwood should die.:D

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

wow, thats the third person to tell me I should go for them.

[Jodez]

And who was the last Victorian team to win the cup????!?!

Yeah thats right

ESSENDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ner ner in your face :p

Bombers rule

[Strider]

That doesn't really prove Essendon are good, it just proves Victorian teams are shite hahaha I think a Vic team are due for a GF win this year. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Melbourne stepped up and took the cup.

[Julian]

Melbourne are too unreliable and I can't see where the massive improvement will come from

[Strider]

I guess we'll wait and see at the end of the year. Injuries the like usually play a vital role in sifting out the winners from the losers.

[Julian]

If Darcy gets back into form and the Dogs stay fairly injury free, they'll have a good crack

[Strider]

Yeah, Bulldogs have an awesome team but they always seem to get injured. I think they need to look at some of their training methods to analyse what's going wrong cos it happens far too regularly.

[damo0945]

go cats!! its been a while (before i was born) but it could finally be our year...

[Julian]

Yeah, Bulldogs have an awesome team but they always seem to get injured. I think they need to look at some of their training methods to analyse what's going wrong cos it happens far too regularly.
Probably just their fast running game not standing up to the shithouse surface of the Dome

[damo0945]

yeah thats some bad surface, anyone else remember the first game played there? (i think it was the first) some guy fell on it and broke his jaw, clearly one metre of dirt sitting on a shitload of concrete isnt enough...

[Emily]

wow, thats the third person to tell me I should go for them.

Those other two people are wise. Listen to them. Its an omen and you know it.

[worry_rock]

Speaking of injuries, I swear to God I will go apeshit if anything happens to James Hird this year. Especially if it's serious/long term. Being him, it's bound to happen. But it's just not fair.

[Strider]

James Hird is just injury prone, which is kinda a shame because when he's fully fit he plays some amazing footy!

[private_eye]

And who was the last Victorian team to win the cup????!?!

Yeah thats right

ESSENDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ner ner in your face :p

Bombers rule
you're just stupid. and probably blind. but i forgive you cos you barrack for essendon

[Grumma]

Yeah, Bulldogs have an awesome team but they always seem to get injured. I think they need to look at some of their training methods to analyse what's going wrong cos it happens far too regularly.

I dont think ACLs etc have much to do with training methods.

It's not like St Kilda where every second player has torn their hamstrings

[worry_rock]

I hate that Essendon's first match of the H&A season is not on free-to-air tv AND it's interstate so I can't attend the match. Bitches.

[Julian]

That must be terrible. I mean one of your like 4 interstate games isn't televised

[Falcon Of Death]

hey NAB cup starts friday, right?

[Strider]

Essendon.

Just saying the name makes me laugh hahahaha

[Grumma]

That must be terrible. I mean one of your like 4 interstate games isn't televised

lol.

Have to agree with Julz; stop having a bitch Riss.

Along with the Magpies we have the best run in terms of home games

[Strider]

Funny how it always seems to happen that way.

[Julian]

Funny how it never really helps

[Strider]

But there's always so many excuses! I mean, Collingwood had injuries! And so did Essendon. Oh and, one of the players cat's died. You have to be more thoughtful when thinking about what they're going through Julian!

[private_eye]

i made no excuses for our efforts last year

we sucked

we'll suck again this year probably

all i care about is it hirdys last year and i'm still deciding where i'm gunna spend the rest of my life becuase i dont think i can cope living in australia and having to put up with the pathetic excuse of a team that we are when hes not playing

[Strider]

One player doesn't make a team. There's plenty of up and coming talent. Just think a few years ago, there was no Juddy. How much of an impact can a rookie like that have on a team? You just never know who you could draft.

[private_eye]

dude i know that whole old cliche about one player not making a team but godamn i've watched essendon for my whole life and let me tell you, when hirdy plays the WHOLE TEAM lifts, trust me. just his presence makes a difference. you'll know its me at subiaco in his final game when he walks off... i'll be the blubbering mess.

up and coming talent? we dont recruit up and comers. we recruit 30 year old has beens or better yet, 30 year old never were's.

[The Dying Start]

Sucks to be you then!

[Grumma]

One player doesn't make a team . . . Just think a few years ago, there was no Juddy.

Oh the irony

[worry_rock]

But there's always so many excuses! I mean, Collingwood had injuries! And so did Essendon. Oh and, one of the players cat's died. You have to be more thoughtful when thinking about what they're going through Julian!

You sooked like a baby last year over your poor, little, injured Eagles. I mean, you said that basically your WHOLE team was injured, right? :p

[Jodez]

FOOTBALL FOOTBALL FOOTBALL YAY YAY YAY :p

[Strider]

You sooked like a baby last year over your poor, little, injured Eagles. I mean, you said that basically your WHOLE team was injured, right? :p

I cannot confirm nor deny the allegations, although I make excuses just like the rest of us when my team is losing.
lol

[The Dying Start]

Showdown tonight. Woooohoo. And Channl 10 is the one station we get good reception on. Wooohooo!

[Grumma]

I cannot confirm nor deny the allegations, although I make excuses just like the rest of us when my team is losing.
lol

lol You do realise Weagles won the granny dont you?

[worry_rock]

Don't remind him! He'll probably crack a fat one just from thinking about it.

[Grumma]

I just found it ironic that he's complaining about losing even though they won the Granny.

Imagine how bad he's gonna be if they come last!

[Strider]

You toolknob, I complained DURING the season when we had injuries? Obviously I didn't complain after we won the grand final...


And yup, I bet you crack a fat watching Eagles games as well Charissa. I guess anything is more exciting that watching that pathetic excuse for a team called Essendon haha

[Jodez]

Ook who else thinks channel 7's coverage was CRAPOLA?!

[Grumma]

Yeah just a tad.

Their commentating seems so bland compared to 9 and 10 as well

[Jodez]

I found at times, they zoomed in to the point where it was blurry and cut out half of what was going on.

[Strider]

Channel 7 adopt a "birds eye view" for a large portion of the game. Which is similar how it used to be done, it's just people have gotten used to 10 and 9. In my personal opinion Channel 9 seem to have the best camera angles and views, always seem to be in the right spots.

[Grumma]

In my personal opinion Channel 9 seem to have the best camera angles and views, always seem to be in the right spots.

QFT.

That and I liked their commentators better

[Strider]

U just love Dermie. We know the truth Grumma.

[Grumma]

lol Dermie's great!

No joke, IMO his insight on the game is second to no commentator that I have heard

[Strider]

His insight into the game is to talk a lot of bullshit, admit it, you just want his body.

[Jodez]

and alot of hair gel

[private_eye]

his insight into the game? you knob

dermie's insight examples:

'grass appears to be wet due to the early rain and could account for the players slipping'

nick riewoldt drops marks, dermies insightful commentary?: 'mmm... fatigue'

dal santo evades players, again, dermies insightful commentary: 'thats skill'

[Strider]

I know lol It's rather humerous tho sometimes. It's just plainly obvious statements. "The other team is winning simply because they've kicked more goals in the game".
No way!

[Julian]

Dermie is the biggest fucking tool ever

[The Dying Start]

He's essentially a footy player.

...an old one.


Who got a few knocks to the head.

[Strider]

Most of the commentators are ex footy players...

[Johnny_Wah]

Last night channel 7 did their cross-promotion routine. It was something about that Jack guy from the show 24.

[The Dying Start]

That's nice.

[cdejonge]

I couldn't stand Franklin last year because he always tried to do too much, but he's looking good so far this year.

[Julian]

And by so far you mean one NAB cup game?

[cdejonge]

And by so far you mean one NAB cup game?Pretty much :) That's going well for Hawthorn. :p

[Grumma]

Franklin should be allowed to do whatever he wants.

Kids a freak show.

Haha and to think Cam: If it wasn't for Sam Mitchell's dad he'd still be playing for Mooroolbark :p

[Julian]

GO PORT! One point in it

EDIT:You beatuy, we're in front!
EDIT2:OH NOES, SCORES LEVEL

[Jodez]

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BOMBERS KILLED WEST COAST MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...just a shame its a practice match :p

[Julian]

Port are 1 point up after the first half of extra time

[Julian]

GOD DAMNIT. Chad Cornes wanted a towel to wipe the ball when having the shot to win the game and they didn't allow it and he missed :(

[Jodez]

:p har har har har

[damo0945]

GO THE MIGHTY CATS!!!!!!!
be honest, we had it in the bag at 3 quarter time ;):P
nah it was a good close game really

[private_eye]

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BOMBERS KILLED WEST COAST MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...just a shame its a practice match :p
.... you do realise judd, cousins, kerr and embley weren't playing...

[Grumma]

And Essendon have been playing at close to full strength

[Strider]

I think the Eagles used WAFL players LOL

[The Dying Start]

GOD DAMNIT. Chad Cornes wanted a towel to wipe the ball when having the shot to win the game and they didn't allow it and he missed :(

What a fag. He's playing a winter sport for Christ's sake. He can't have a doiley to wipe the ball at any other point in the game...he just needs to lean how to play a bit of real footy.

[Grumma]

Use the inside of his jumper.

Would've been the thing to do

[damo0945]

i'm guessing you didn't see the game?
torrential rain, literally
theyve had 170 mils in 5 days, they were basically playing in a pond

[Grumma]

You don't play footy do you?

[The Dying Start]

Playing in particulrly muddy pond was the whole idea of footy, i thought.

[Grumma]

Even then, the material in footy jerseys mean that the inside stays almost completely dry unless you get water between it and your body

[damo0945]

You don't play footy do you?

actually i do, or did last year, still haven't decided this year

Even then, the material in footy jerseys mean that the inside stays almost completely dry unless you get water between it and your body

hmmmmmmm... not sure about that (as in, i really don't know, not that i'm disagreeing)

[Grumma]

I found out last year that it works :)

[private_eye]

hahaah u knobhead, since when does the inside of your jumper stay dry.

when it rains, and you're sliding around, water is gunna get in between you and your jumper.

[Jawn]

Regardless, its a fucking winter sport. Players should be able to handle a wet ball. In fact, if I was a coach I'd only let my players use waterlogged balls in training. I should be a coach.

[Burner]

The Lions seem to be doing well this pre-season. Hope they can make something of it and have a successful year.

[Grumma]

They've got a few decent youngsters (Sherman, Rischetteli (sp?) and co)
Adding onto that, Jared Brenna looks like he's gonna have a good year

[The Dying Start]

Regardless, its a fucking winter sport. Players should be able to handle a wet ball. In fact, if I was a coach I'd only let my players use waterlogged balls in training. I should be a coach.

Amen to that Jawnson.

[Grumma]

Or you could train at a beach; almost garaunteeing the heaviest, slipperiest fuckers of balls ever

[Jodez]

.... you do realise judd, cousins, kerr and embley weren't playing...

and you realise Hird, Lucas, J.Johnson,Camporeale, McPhee, Lovett-Murray, Cole, and the empty void of Soloman werent playing

[Grumma]

lol @ Camporeale, Lovett-Murray and Cole

[Jodez]

yes.. but at least Lovett Murray can play..the others arent great..i must say, funnily enough they being from carlton and collingwood..Hmm HAHA I hope Mal Micheal isnt a dud

[Grumma]

I still think Judd, Cousins, Kerr and Embley outways the Essendon players you mentioned.

Between those 4 there are 2 Norm Smiths and 2 Brownlows, with Kerr coming second in the Brownlow a couple of years ago.

We have a brownlow and norm in Hird and thats it

[Jodez]

yeah i know, but you would reckon west coast wouldnt need to rely on having those players win games for them. Essendon has a lot of younger players...its good to see they seem to be working well together,

[Julian]

and you realise Camporeale, Cole, and the empty void of Soloman werent playing
Lol

And every team relies on their best 4 players to win them games. Jeez.

Plus, I don't think Essendon is THAT young. I mean what were they thinking drafting Michael when they have youngsters coming through. It's just gonna set them back in 3-4 years which is when they should be hoping to win a flag.

[Burner]

They've got a few decent youngsters (Sherman, Rischetteli (sp?) and co)
Adding onto that, Jared Brenna looks like he's gonna have a good year

Yeah Rischetteli is a great young player. He had a sterling debut season and am looking forward to see him a key player in the Lions squad. I hope Brown doesn't get injured this year, he was like Brownlow contention last year if he wasn't injured.

[Julian]

Brown will never be in Brownlow contention

[Burner]

Well he was up there when i flicked it over for 10 mins.

[Strider]

I was impressed with the Kangaroos yesterday. They played some very hard on the ball footy. The Dockers just tried to resort to dirty play.

And think of it this way, if West Coast have their midfield out of the team. They're pretty much screwed. Our midfield is our number 1 asset.

[The Dying Start]

The Dockers just tried to resort to dirty play.

What do you mean "resorted to"? I thought that was their usual gameplan?

[Grumma]

Well with Carr, Carr, Solomon and Farmer they're sure fire to be in trouble!

And Burner: I think Julz meant cos big Brownie always gets suspended

[The Dying Start]

You're darn right there, Grumskizzle.

[Grumma]

They should be alright now though; Solly is gone and looks like Farmer's gonna be gone for a while yet

[worry_rock]

....I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT SOLLY'S GONE TO FREMANTLE.

I think I'm gonna cry.

[Grumma]

No big loss.

Back in 2000/2001 he woulda been; but not so now

[Julian]

They should be alright now though; Solly is gone and looks like Farmer's gonna be gone for a while yet
And guess who's got Freo first up?

[Grumma]

Brisbane??

[Julian]

Port Adelaide

[Burner]

Well with Carr, Carr, Solomon and Farmer they're sure fire to be in trouble!

And Burner: I think Julz meant cos big Brownie always gets suspended

Oh right. i didn't realise he did. I don't watch a great deal of AFL. I don't care, hes still one of my favourite players.

[Grumma]

He's IMO the most important player to any team in the league

[Burner]

He's IMO the most important player to any team in the league

I like your style. Besides the Lions didn't have much after Lynch retired. Someone had to step up!

[Grumma]

Brown was ahead of Lynch when you won in 2001.

You need Brown, Brennan and Merret to play well this season.
They hold up you should do alright

[Julian]

I'd rather Pavlich, Fev or Hall over Brown

[Grumma]

Fit I'd take Brown over any of those.

Pavlich would be second, Hall then Fev

[Burner]

Merret is a big man mountain of a redhead dude isn't he? Yeah young fella should do alright as far as i've seen. Haven't seen much of Brennen.

[Julian]

Brown has yet to prove he can consistently play well over a whole year. And by well I mean up to the standard of Hall or Pav

[Grumma]

Brennan's a freak show.

He'd be in your quickest players, have the best verticle leap and agility.
Add to that he's key position height and you've got quite a package

[Burner]

If i remember correctly, wasn't Brennen in the midfield or ruck or something in previously? Or maybe i don't remember correctly...

[Grumma]

He's ruck in one or 2 games. But he started off as a half forward and this year he should be playing Centre Half Back

[Grumma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag7PplN-IyY

Brennan's the tallish dude in the long sleeves with curly hair

[Julian]

Roe should be playing centre half back for the Lions

[Grumma]

Nah Brennan's better suited to that spot

[Julian]

Nah, Roe is

[Grumma]

Brennan > Roe

[Burner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag7PplN-IyY

Brennan's the tallish dude in the long sleeves with curly hair
I see. quite tall isn't he.

[Julian]

Roe> Brennan

[Grumma]

Yeah he's about 6'4" (193cm).

Probably needs to put on a bit of muscle but other than that he'd a good key position prospect

Pssh Roe used to play for Collingwood; he cant be that good

[Julian]

Height doesn't matter that much

[Grumma]

If you're playing a key position it does.

Why do you think the likes of Brad Ottens are nearly impossible to match up on?

[Burner]

ooh, ooh, pick me!

is it because hes really tall?

[Grumma]

Bingo ;)

Yes 200+ cm forwards are a biatch to match up on

[Burner]

Winnaaa!!!

[Grumma]

Have a cookie

[Burner]

Mmmmm, i like you.

[Julian]

If you're playing a key position it does.

Why do you think the likes of Brad Ottens are nearly impossible to match up on?

He's not? How many 200cm+ forwards kick more than 50 goals a season. A good vertical jump and speed easily make up for 2 or 3 centimetres.

Just for your information Fevola is 191 cm and he averaged 2.8 more goals per game than Ottens last season.

Most centre half forwards these days play running roles and move up the field more anyway.

[Grumma]

a) Brad Ottens played predominantly in the ruck b) in 2001 he kicked 50+ c) name one defender, that with the 3 cm would get above the 200cm mark d) Ottens, when he does play forward, doesn't play centre half forward and e) imagine how many goals Fevola would've kicked if he was up around the 6'5" mark

[Julian]

That makes no sense Grumma. You think height has no impact on anything else on your game. Using that theory, if a midfielder was 200cm then he would be better than everyone else.

Wow, he kicked more than 50 goals in a year once. Name some other players over 200cm that have done so

c) name one defender, that with the 3 cm would get above the 200cm mark
I'm confused at what you're asking here?

[Grumma]

You said that vertical leap takes away 2 or 3 cm in height difference. well if Ottens is over 200cm what defender, even with the extra 2 or 3 cm is gonna be as tall as him.

And as far as height impact thingo; just look at Richo, he's 6'6" and a couple of years ago wouldve been the fittest forward in the comp. Even Jonathon Brown who's 6'5" and 105kg runs a 14 something in the beep test.

And Im pretty sure Paul Salmon did it a few times, and if you take into consideration the proportion of the game resting ruckman spend in the forward line you'd probs find their goals/time in forward line ratio would be similar to that of a full time key forward

[Julian]

Leo Barry is 184 cm and he could play on Ottens, no trouble. The ratio reasoning is crap. If a 200cm player was a real chance of kicking more than 50+ a season, they would be a permanent forward. In todays game agility and speed are much more important than height.

And that whole what defender even with 3 cm is gonna be as tall as Ottens argument just proves my point. There's not many. Yet Ottens still doesn't dominate.

[Grumma]

That's cos he doesn't play solely as a forward; you put him at full forward in a team that doesnt play a crap "lets slow down the play" game style like Sydney and he would either kill the crap through teams or they'd have to double and triplet team him.

Go to a local footy match and I garauntee that the big fat gorilla that sits at full forward doing nothing will kick the most goals of anyone in the game if left one on one

[Julian]

But Ottens doesn't dominate when he is down there. I don't care what works in crap quality local leagues. It may be difficult for you to play against someone tall, maybe because you aren't that great but AFL is a different ball game. I'm not sure if a player over 200cm has ever won the coleman medal. Do you think there is a reason for this? Maybe because shorter players can still be as strong as a 200cm player yet have greater, speed agility and co ordination.

[Jodez]

Mark Johnson, Brent Harvey and and retired dude Liboratore are and were short and def arent shit....
What Julian said anyway :p

[Strider]

Peter Bell is small as well.

Lets face it, each team requires people of all different heights and sizes. Shorter players are better for midfield & in the forward line, taller players are better in defense.

Ideally the spine of the team should be reasonably tall (Full Forward, CHF, Ruck, CHB, Full Back). Wingers can be medium to tall, flankers are good medium towards talll. Pocket players are usually better short to compliment the full forward or full back. Although it's advisable to have more medium height players in back pocket, whom also have speed and athleticism. There's a very fine line between too tall and too short.

[Grumma]

But Ottens doesn't dominate when he is down there. I don't care what works in crap quality local leagues. It may be difficult for you to play against someone tall, maybe because you aren't that great but AFL is a different ball game. I'm not sure if a player over 200cm has ever won the coleman medal. Do you think there is a reason for this? Maybe because shorter players can still be as strong as a 200cm player yet have greater, speed agility and co ordination.

That's because there's never been a 200cm+ permanent full forward before.
They're always ruckman.
Take Paul Salmon as an example; he kicked more then 10 goals in a game probably a half dozen times in his career

[The Dying Start]

e) imagine how many goals Fevola would've kicked if he was up around the 6'5" mark

Hey...imagine how many goals Fevola would've kicked if he had some form of semi-reliable goal kicking ability!

[Grumma]

Glenn, what are you on about?

[Strider]

He's either joking, or simply stupid. Fervola is easily the best full forward in the league. If he played for a team with an awesome midfield he'd kick double the amount of goals he kicks for Carlton.

I don't really agree with the height thing, if he was heaps more taller he'd be slower. A lot of full backs these days are very agile and strong, which is why I believe the traditional full forward has been taken out of the game. That along with the fact most teams flood.

[Burner]

Glenn, what are you on?

I've been wondering that too.

[Erik]

i'd say J Brown is the best full forward in the league...only reason he was beaten in the goal tally was because of injuries.

I'm looking forward to seeing geelong play this week, Thommohawk is getting a game. If his shit, geelong can pretty much say goodbye to a premiership for the next 10 years

[Grumma]

I hope you aren't gonna judge him off this one game though . . .

[Strider]

i'd say J Brown is the best full forward in the league...only reason he was beaten in the goal tally was because of injuries.



Yeah cos I mean, Fevola didn't have injuries at all last season *rolls eyes*

[Grumma]

I'm pretty sure if you go goals per game Brown was ahead (though I could very well be wrong) and in the Brownlow it's been that case for the past 2 years

[Julian]

It's alot easier to impress playing a 10(Brown) game season than a 21 game season(Fevola). And Fevola still averaged more goals, despite being in a shitter team.

[The Dying Start]

I was just saying that for the most part Fevola couldn't hit Uluru from 25 metres away kicking a beach ball. I must admit he's improved somewhat. He'd kill everyone if he was consistent.

[Grumma]

You do realise Fev is up there with the most accurate kicks for goal in the league?

[Julian]

Sorry Glenn, but I don't think you know what you're talking about

[Grumma]

He might; beach balls are pretty hard to kick any distance what-so-ever

[Burner]

Its pretty easy to kick beach short distances. Maybe a few metres or so. but it would be pretty hard to kick 25.


On that note, go Notting, go Shermon, go Black, go Rischitelli. Ha ha Geelong.

[Grumma]

The Sherminator; love that guy

[Neryssah]

On that note, go Notting, go Shermon, go Black, go Rischitelli. Ha ha Geelong.

You're my new favourite forum-person.

BRISBANE! :D

[Grumma]

Too bad your entire season's hopes rest on one man's knees and back

[Liz]

Hahaha.

However, I am trying not to laugh at other teams, as I'm not sure how the Crows will do this season.
Probably not that well, considering their shameful loss to Port.
PORT! :mad:

[Grumma]

Same as last year; they'll choke once people figure out how to beat em :p

[Neryssah]

Too bad your entire season's hopes rest on one man's knees and back

Yeah, I'm not expecting a real good year. Again :(

[Liz]

Same as last year; they'll choke once people figure out how to beat em :p

Haha. Probably. :p

[Grumma]

Yeah, I'm not expecting a real good year. Again :(

I am (on a personal note) ^_^

At training Ive proven to myself and the coach that I can match it physically with the older players

[Julian]

Same as last year; they'll choke once people figure out how to beat em :p
I hope you mean the Crows

[Burner]

You're my new favourite forum-person.

BRISBANE! :D
w00t.
Too bad your entire season's hopes rest on one man's knees and back

haha i know its sad, but true.

[Strider]

Fev is such a crap full forward he bagged 8 goals.

[Grumma]

Well he was opposed to Firrito

[worry_rock]

I went to the Essendon/Hawthorn practice match today.

I got there during the second quarter, and Hawthorn were 6. 6. and Essendon had just one goal and something like 8 behinds. ONE GOAL FOR THE WHOLE FIRST HALF. Pathetic. However, we kept Hawks scoreless in the 3rd quarter and took the lead and eventually won. :D

And oh my goodness, David Hille is one sexy, sexy, glistening, man-beast. He will be mine, oh yes, he will be mine...

[cdejonge]

Any more details of the match Chaz?

I went to the NAB grand final tonight. Not a bad match but not the best atmosphere on Level 3. I still can't believe how you have to line up for tickets first at the Dome, then line up again at the gates. [/rant]

[Strider]

Fev is a friggen machine. How good was his one handed mark.

Now that Carlton have won the NAB, they must once again take out the wooden spoon hahaha Nah, they should do better this year!

[Grumma]

I think it's pretty funny that Lance Franklin got told to "put it in his pants or he'd be playing for Box Hill" and that Chad Fletched flatlined in Las Vegas

[cdejonge]

Fev is a friggen machine. How good was his one handed mark.That was pretty impressive!

[Grumma]

Jonathon Brown was more impressive.

For someone who hasn't played in 10 months he looked very good

[The Dying Start]

I'm sensing homo-erotic overtones.

[private_eye]

SHERMAN

legend.

[Grumma]

haha I'll back that

[private_eye]

i'd get on his back that's what i'd bloody well do. legend. same with hunter. i'd go em both.

[Grumma]

Adam Hunter?

[Strider]

Adam Hunter is a champion.
Cousins is a champion on the footy field, an absolute FUCKING MORON off the field.

[private_eye]

Adam Hunter = freakshow

can win you a match anywhere on the ground

he's one of the few utilities left and he's also Worsfold's wildcard... gettin killed up forward, send in Hunter, he'll snag a couple. Trouble down back, Hunter will go back and punch some blokes and it's all sweet.

Yeh agree with ya there, Cousins had the world at his feet and he fuckkkkked it up big time. What's the media like over there... it's goin nuts here, headline story on the news (not just sport news either)... i imagine it's just dominating everything in WA...

[Grumma]

yeah Adam Hunter is awsome.

I expect Beau Waters to become a similar type of utility player the same as Hunter

[Strider]

Everything in the media over here is about Cousins. But he's friggen stupid. He's done all this shit. If it was any other player they would have been booted out the team years ago. It's just he's such an awesome player that they've always had to try and cover up all the shit he was doing. Same goes for Kerr, Fletcher. Gardiner paid the price for his stupidity. Just makes me pissed off to be an Eagles supporter when your players can't even contain themselves out of football.

[Grumma]

Every club has their trouble players though

[Neryssah]

Nawww, I like Cousins! He's one of the reasons that I can occasionally be convinced to go for the weagles :p

[Strider]

Of course. Any sporting club has the same problems. It's just the players are a bit more discrete about it. Over here everyone knows everyone, so when anything happens the media finds out almost instantly.

[Grumma]

Yeah spose so.

I still think Lance Franklin wins though

[Strider]

wins for what?

I reckon the whole Lance Whitnall thing was hilarious. lol

[Grumma]

Off field stuff.

He got told to "put it in his pants or he'd be playing for Box Hill in the VFL"

[Strider]

hahaha, actually I think I heard that!
Of course guys who play footy are gonna be playing the field. It's just part of being a sports star I reckon haha Just like being in a band. Sex, Drugs, Rock n Roll.

[Grumma]

lol minus the rock n roll part for the most of it in the case of the footballer.

Yeah I get a fair bit of goss comin out of Hawthorn through Sam Mitchell

[private_eye]

you're so connected

[Julian]

I'm Ben Cousins drug dealer. HOW'S THAT FOR CONNECTED!

[Strider]

I think every coccain dealer in Perth can probably say the same thing Julian.

[Jawn]

hahaha, actually I think I heard that!
Of course guys who play footy are gonna be playing the field. It's just part of being a sports star I reckon haha Just like being in a band. Sex, Drugs, Rock n Roll.

Some dude made the exact same comparison on radio this morning, in that musicians seem to get away with it, but sports stars don't. What gives?

I think both are, and should be quite different. The major one being the fitness aspect. Sure, you gotta be a bit fit to be able to be a musician (concerts will be grinding on the body, and many muso's train before a long tour.), but definately not as fit as say an elite sportsman. Both people are role models, but in completly different ways. Kids who look up to sportsmen should be able to look up to elite, fit, athletic, straight (as in taking no drugs, not getting blotto) people. Not only that, partying and binge drinking and taking drugs constantly will never help your performance on the field ever, and can only hinder it. Being in a band is different because we aren't looking up to our musician heroes because they are fit, elite athletes. We look up to them for the prowress on their instrument, or their song writing abilities.

Furthermore, the more debaucherous bands out there aren't generally aimed at kids as young as those who would admire sports stars. Bands like The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zepellin, AC/DC, etc, etc, all known for their drunken, debaucherous ways, aren't for a more older and mature audience, who already know (and maybe experimented) with drugs and clearly know their rights from wrongs. Sports stars attract a younger fanbase. When I was really little, I wanted to be Jason Dunstall, not Keith Richards. Now, I'd rather be doing what Keith Richards is doing instead of playing footy.

[Strider]

Footy is a team sport, and is made up by a lot of staff etc And one rotten apple can spoil it for everyone. Plus lets not forget rock n roll bands are almost 'expected' to act that way. So it doesn't surprise people. You're right tho, bands appeal to an older audience. Especially seeing as most bands can only be see if you are over 18. Sport starts are looked up to by a lot of kids, all ages really.

[The Dying Start]

I love Jawn's post.

I also love Jawn's butt. Every night.

[Jawn]

Don't be so rough next time though. If you've had a stressfull day, can we talk about it first to calm you down? I still can't sit down without pain.

[The Dying Start]

That's what I gave you that inflatable donut for.

[Jawn]

I know, but I ated it.


Mmmmmm doughnut.

[Grumma]

you're so connected

Damn straight.

We might even get to play a practise match on Waverly :p

[Jawn]

isn't Waverley effectively a public oval anyway?

[Grumma]

Yeah but you need special permission to use it.

It's still got the gates and stuff up i think