The Stupid Questions Thread

[The Dying Start]

Yeah, that dude was a fuckhead.

[Sarah]

totally...

[The Dying Start]

Nawwww......

[Johnny_Wah]

http://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg

[The Dying Start]

RLY!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~frank.thomas/photos/Glenn_Palace.jpg

[Johnny_Wah]

What an ugly fucker.

[May]

That's not a nice thing to say about Carla :mad:

[Johnny_Wah]

Maybs, but cmooon. Blue suit!?

[Colezy]

There is nothing wrong with a blue suit. I'd more worried if it were fluro pink or something. Then again, I wouldn't put that past Glenn :p

[May]

Maybs, but cmooon. Blue suit!?


nm... :rolleyes:

[WhitefalconTLE44]

does anyone know if there's any videos of The Living End playing acoustic songs live. I've seen some pictures of acoustic sets, but i never found a video.

[The Dying Start]

Neither have i. Even audio-wise, we only have bits here and there no full sets.

[May]

Anyone know where Scotty and Chris got their ink done?

I seem to remember reading about Scotts f-holes years ago, but dont ever recall hearing where Chris got his falcon or felix.

And do we know what other ink (if any) they have?

[Bec]

I thought they both got theirs done on the most recent warped tour at the same time as Andy?

[Kacky]

They got their tattoos on the 2006 Warped Tour. There's a travelling tattoo artist that goes on it, I'm pretty sure.

[May]

Cool. Couldn't remember.

Still, anyone know about felix?

[gaby2121]

I seem to remember reading about Scotts f-holes


that sounds dirty:D

[Habibster]

I was wondering, does anybody have any idea if Rising Sun will become a live setlist regular?

[Sarah]

no idea.
It's still current and popular (did i mention good??) so i guess it will be around for a while. It might be the new Tainted Love!

[All_torn_down16]

no idea.
It's still current and popular (did i mention good??) so i guess it will be around for a while. It might be the new Tainted Love!

It can be the new Tainted Love as long as Tainted Love is still played regularly! For my sake may I add.

[The Dying Start]

I wouldn't mind it becoming a regular. It's still getting tonnes of airplay.

[Habibster]

i guess that may be answered by the time some of the british shows come around, but then again, it may not...

[Johnny_Wah]

Okay, heres a toughie. I remember a photo (MA time) where chris was playing some kind of Cole Clark tele with his slide. Any info on the guitar etc?

[The Dying Start]

...it was a cole clark tele that Chris was playing with his slide...


Oh...and that was around MA time...

[Johnny_Wah]

...it was a cole clark tele that Chris was playing with his slide...


Oh...and that was around MA time...

Great, thanksloozer.

[The Dying Start]

I do my best.

[Sean11]

The living end said on a dvd (can't remember which one) that they done a cover of anarchy in the uk... im wondering if it was recorded?:confused:

[Moose]

Ok I love the band - but lets hope not yeh?

[damo0945]

why? that could be pretty rad...

[kelso]

I'd want to hear that

[Moose]

TLE are essentially a bunch of affable Aussies who play great music. Anarchy is a homicidally angry song - they are nowhere near intense enough for it. And what would they mean by advocating 'Anarchy in the UK'? Why not in Aus?

You've only got to watch the West End Riot video to see how out of place it would be. It would be a bit tourist..

What do you want next - Keane do 'Beds are Burning'? Busted doing 'Know your Product'?

[Kev]

What do you want next - Keane do 'Beds are Burning'? Busted doing 'Know your Product'?

Never heard of Keane or Busted.


But couldn't this have gone into the questions thread?

[Moose]

Never heard of Keane or Busted.


But couldn't this have gone into the questions thread?

Yer big fibba

[WhitefalconTLE44]

damn, you got my hopes up, i thought it was a new song that you had by the title of the thread:(

[Kacky]

But couldn't this have gone into the questions thread?

You could always merge this thread into the Stupid Questions one.

[Neo]

Never heard of Keane or Busted.

and you call yourself a radio DJ... tsk tsk.



:p

[Kev]

and you call yourself a radio DJ... tsk tsk.



:p

yep. If its not in the Alternative/Blues/Rockabilly/Indie/experimental/ genre, then I don't know it.

And especially if its from the SonyBMG label. They don't send me music to play, so I don't support them.

[Habibster]

Hmmmm...does anybody have any bootlegs or any type of recording from the living end's early days (circa Hellbound maybe??)....

Just thought it was worth a try :p

[Johnny_Wah]

Some people on this forum have early demos and stuff, and a couple are floating around here. I've got a couple, so if you can't find them I'll upload.

[Habibster]

haha sweeet johnny, your a good fella :)

[Johnny_Wah]

No probs mate, have a look around the forums...You'll probably find what you want and more.

Also:WHOEVER HAS THESE DEMOS (May?) PLEEEEASE UPLOAD THEM.:D

kthnx

[atomgal]

You guys know about 23rd Precinct, right? ;) There's a handful of old stuff there.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Yeah, i have all the old demos from there, but i thought there were more?

[May]

No probs mate, have a look around the forums...You'll probably find what you want and more.

Also:WHOEVER HAS THESE DEMOS (May?) PLEEEEASE UPLOAD THEM.:D

kthnx

Most of what I have is on 23rd Precinct. At least I'm pretty sure it is (haven't had a really good look there - sorry Glenbo).
Anything that's not, I'd only have on tape, and no way of getting on the computer.

Anyhoo, why pick on me?
Glenn and Sarah have more shit than I do by way of recorded media...

[Fritz]

Yeah there are heaps more old demos around.

There were two sessions in '91 I think... Both were pretty much the same songs but the later were much better sounding, better played.

I think there was another session AFTERwards (im sure it wasnt before) that had alot of covers by The Sharp, Rolling Stones, Creedance, Stray Cats aswell as alot of originals. Even So lonely was in there I think

Yeah I know ive definately got 3 entirely different sets of demos all up. (about 30 different tunes all up not including the doubled up tunes). Just cant remember the years... i'll have to dig them up. they are in my room somewhere

I've also got 3 different gigs recorded to tape straight off the mixing desk, playing in pubs to about a dozen people. Very very very very early 90's. Under 'the runaway boys' obviously, and seperately ive got a live fireballs concert that starts off with about 3 tunes by the support band.... Yes TLE

[WhitefalconTLE44]

could you put those up please mick?

[Kev]

Try the old Gmail account.

Ya never know what you might find there.

[Fritz]

i wouldnt know how..

[RollOn]

i wouldnt know how..

Me either, could someone please explain how to access that account?

[Burner]

I thought that account was closed down.

[Colezy]

Yeah, the Gmail account was closed down late 2005/early 2006.

I have a bunch a songs (2 different gigs from memory) from 1993, but I've promised not to share them around, sorry.

[mel_bound]

It's so strange not having Glenn around whoring his site!

some Runaway Boys shiz (http://www.23rdprecinct.net/)

[Colezy]

Where is Glenn?? Busy with work or something??

I haven't been home for the last few days, so I've been missing out on all the forum action :p

[mel_bound]

I guess so, I have no idea where he went, or anyone went for that matter! Half the top posters in the member's list haven't been on in months! Damn forum down time.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Yeah, the boards have been very slow lately:( Its depressing.

[The Dying Start]

Yeah where is that fuckstain?


And Glenn hates Nicole.

[May]

He's aliiiiiive!

[Colezy]

Nicole has never liked Glenn either.

[Burner]

Where did all the love go?

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Does anyone know what Chris ( i think its Chris) says during the solo in
Just Too Bad? I can't pick it out. Its at around 1:56. Thanks.

[kelso]

who sings Out Of This Game?

[Colezy]

who sings Out Of This Game?
TLE and Yeah Yeah!

[kelso]

yeah yeah?

[Colezy]

Yeah :p


Sorry couldn't help myself! I don't know too much about them though.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I think jessii just put a picture up of a cassette with them in the picture thread.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

This is probably a question for mick, but does anyone know what acoustic he uses on the song Homestead? It sounds really cool, and i really like the acoustic parts in it.

[Habibster]

Does anyone know what Chris ( i think its Chris) says during the solo in
Just Too Bad? I can't pick it out. Its at around 1:56. Thanks.

haha i have been wondering that aswell...I thought he said something like 'I need to ask you one more thing', but now when i listen to it it sounds like he says something like 'i need to actually work this thing'...

Haha i'm pretty sure i'm way off though ;)

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Thanks for the attempt. I think i'll try to listen to it in my headphones again, that usually works. I'll let ya know if i can pick any words out.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Never mind, i can't pick out anything really.:(

[May]

who sings Out Of This Game?
Stevo from ska band Area 7 was previously in the rockabilly band Yeah Yeah, and he and Chris did vocals on Out Of This Game.

It's also Stevo's fault that I ended up addicted to this friggin band... sort of... :p

[kelso]

Stevo from ska band Area 7 was previously in the rockabilly band Yeah Yeah, and he and Chris did vocals on Out Of This Game.

It's also Stevo's fault that I ended up addicted to this friggin band... sort of... :p

haha thanks!

[Kev]

This is probably a question for mick, but does anyone know what acoustic he uses on the song Homestead? It sounds really cool, and i really like the acoustic parts in it.

It could be the Maton Messiah M100


as seen here:
http://www.renner.com.sg/maton-2.html

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Ok, thanks. I knew he played Matons, but i thought he had some other acoustics too, so i wasn't sure. Thanks again.

[The Dying Start]

Chris is the Messiah!

[Habibster]

I Get A Kick Out Of You:

Have the living end played it live??

[Fritz]

yep messiah guitar for homestead.

and yep tle played i get a kick on an aussie comedy tv show

[Kev]

They played IGAKOOY on Good News Weekend on the ABC.

I still have the video kickin somewhere.

From memory they also played some TV themes as well for a game...

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Care to share Kev?

[Kev]

Care to share Kev?

I;m in the process of shifting house at the moment, and my stuff is scattered everywhere. I'll keep an eye out for it and rip it and up it.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Oh, well in that case, take your time. :)

[The Dying Start]

Ignore Whitefalcon. Put a rush on that video, Kev! :p

[Burner]

Uploaded that video yet Kev?

[The Dying Start]

Hahahahaha. Oh lordy.

[Sarah]

who sings Out Of This Game?

i re-discovered the old crack-a-jack site a week or so ago...here (http://www.crack-a-jack.com/)

they did Scotty's checkered bass and heaps of other cool stuff. I got 2 Yeah Yeah (http://www.crack-a-jack.com/yeahyeah/main.html) vinyls from there many moons ago, very cool!

as soon as i gain employment i'll send them an email about the Area 7 vinyl...i'm concerned that the site hasn't changed since i last purchased from there, so i don't know if they still have a lot of that stuff in stock.

[The Dying Start]

Nice one Sarah! Worst photo of Scott EVERRRRR.

[Sarah]

oh no, is that the undies one??

[The Dying Start]

No, it's the one where he's holding his bass and looking like a monkey.

[Sarah]

haha, i see! he's got his pants on though, so it isnt' thaaaat bad :)

[The Dying Start]

Depending on your outlook, yes.

[Burner]

Depending on your outlook, no.

[_jimmy_]

LMAO...*shudders

[gaby2121]

Does any one have this song?

Ready -The Living End

from this album.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b280/skateorgaby/d52737x09e4.jpg

[WhitefalconTLE44]

i do, but i don't think we're allowed to post it. ???

[gaby2121]

How much did it cost?
There is other bands too I want to get it.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I got it for like 5 bucks at an FYE around here.

http://www.fye.com/Short-Music-for-Short-People-Front-Page_stcVVproductId410011VVcatId455366VVviewprod.h tm
they have it here, but i don't know where they ship too.

[Kacky]

Try eBay if you can't find it at a record store in your area. :)

[mattheal]

Link to ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Short-Music-for-Short-People-Various-Artists-CD-NEW_W0QQitemZ290151330404QQihZ019QQcategoryZ307QQr dZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)

only $15.43 shipped to aus!

[RollOn]

She's in America mate :p

[damo0945]

i've kinda wanted that cd for a while, 101 (or 99? i forget) songs on one cd...

[mel_bound]

101, but the last 3 songs are on the one tracks because CDs don't like going past 99!

I got that CD before I had any TLE albums, but I bought it because they were on there. Stupid youth pays off occasionally!

[May]

This is mainly directed to anyone who used to frequent the old TLE chatroom.

Does anyone have a copy of a snippet of a song called Runaway that was sent to a few of us by Russ? Cos yeah. I cant find my file of it anywhere. And it's bugging the shit out of me.

[Fritz]

holy shit.... good memory!

But nah.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

How long was this snippet?

[Kacky]

Whatever it is, hoooook hook me up. :p :)

[May]

Are you mental? (/waynes world moment)

I'm looking for someone who has it. So how can I hand it over? Honestly... :rolleyes:

[Kacky]

Take your time. :p

[May]

Riiiiiiiiiight.








Isn't Stand By Me a great flick?

"I am acting my age. I'm in the prime of my youth and I'll only be young once. "
"Yeah, but you're gonna be stupid for the rest of your life. "

[mattheal]

She's in America mate :p

So's the seller :p

[smokey242]

Just wondering, have TLE played Short Notice or So What live before? Has anyone seen any versions on the web (or live)?

[May]

Short Notice was played at one of the Longnecks gigs - or maybe it was the Dandy Nongs one - but cant think if So What has :)

[Kacky]

I'd love to hear Short Notice live.

[smokey242]

Yeh...when i first heard it i thought they would definitely play it as it is short, hard and powerful.
I would also love to hear Nothing Lasts Forever live. I found one or 2 on the net but not real good quality.
So What I imagine would be hard live...maybe if they did an acoustic set here and there they would.

[Sarah]

I've seen NLF played a couple of times live. The first time I hadn't heard it before, it was nice and cruisy :)

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Yeah, they played NLF in philly too. Its a good one live.

[Kacky]

Nothing Lasts Forever is great live! It slows the set down too, which gives us time to cool off from dancing. :p ;)

[The Dying Start]

It's a great song but it's a bit grating live, in my opinion.

[Weston]

Okay, so I give up. Who (or what class of people) does "Jimmy" refer to? The official site doesn't seem to have Chris' explanations anymore, which is a shame for someone obtuse like me who needs these things spelled out. :(

Actually, also, I heard that 'Pictures in the Mirror' referred to someone specific - http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=58714 - should I take that fifth comment with a grain of salt?

Thanks a million!

[Johnny_Wah]

No idea.



Hope this helps! :cool:

[Dwntwn lights]

Is the dvd released with the Aust. version of State of Emergency available anywhere? I would really like to see it since it wasn't included in the North American version and I'm not entirely sure if I can get it to convert.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I'm not sure if they still have it in the online store, but i got it from there, and the dvd works fine in my dvd player.

[atomgal]

It does? How did you get it to work? I tried it in about 5 different players, and nothing. :(

[WhitefalconTLE44]

My cambridge DVD player plays it fine. But the one old Sony DVD player we have doesn't, so i guess it depends on what company.

[Weston]

Alternatively, you could try using a program to rip it to your computer - if you've got a Mac, the obvious solution is Handbrake, but for Windows you'll probably have to try finding the elusive DVD Decrypter, then renaming the huge file it spits out from .vob to .avi. (That should be enough to sidestep the DVD Regions; I have several American DVDs on my computer now)

[smokey242]

If you got a cheap dvd player, nearly everything works coz the parts to make them regional are expensive making the players themselves expensive. If it has Divx written on it, it will play almost everthing. Mine won't play American dvds but plays pretty much every other region as well as AVIs etc.
I am actually trying to get a copy of the From Here On In dvd so i can put it onto my ipod. But my computer is Japanese so i need a Japan region dvd and they aren't that easy to come by!

[Kacky]

I haven't tried different region DVDs in my DVD player yet, I don't think. So I wouldn't know what's happening with it. If you have the money to fork out for a regionless player, then that's the way to go.

[Bec]

I use the program VLC player (which is free) on my computer and it lets me watch most regions of dvds without a problem. It also plays most types of media files and takes great screencaps so it's pretty handy, don't think you can rip dvds with it though, just watch. There are a few dvd ripping programs which you can either trial for free or buy pretty cheaply.

And there's always the region switching thing if you don't want to download a program. You can swap regions a certain number of times so you could always swap your computer to a region your normal dvd player doesn't let you watch.

[Dwntwn lights]

I actually have the VLC player on my laptop but I rarely use it so I didn't think it would work with any regional DVDs.

Thanks for all your help. :)

[The Dying Start]

AnyDVD is a program that removes regioning and all those ads and warnings from dvd's on the fly, so playing them on your computer will work fine, and if you were to create a totally legal "backup copy", it would also be without ads or region!

[Bec]

Ooh, does the trial version have enough to do it properly or should I buy it if I ever need somthing like that?

[Sarah]

Okay, so I give up. Who (or what class of people) does "Jimmy" refer to? The official site doesn't seem to have Chris' explanations anymore, which is a shame for someone obtuse like me who needs these things spelled out. :(

Actually, also, I heard that 'Pictures in the Mirror' referred to someone specific - http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=58714 - should I take that fifth comment with a grain of salt?

Thanks a million!

PITM, i think Chris said it was about either Jerry Hall, or Geri Halliwell (first one I think) when it first came out...

[Sarah]

Stupid Question:

How do TLE come to be courtesy of themselves (ie. in Stoneage Cameos), when most other bands are courtesy of their record company??

[damo0945]

was it when they were between labels? actually they're still on the same one in Australia anyway aren't they? I tried, not bad considering i don't know what you're talking about... is it a tv show or movie or something?

[Weston]

Thanks for the answer, Sarah! Sorry I don't have one for you, though "between labels" sounds sensible to me.

[The Dying Start]

Because TLE are Gods. That's why.

[atomgal]

What is Stoneage Cameos? Sounds Hoodoo Gurus-y...

[WhitefalconTLE44]

i don't know what it is exactly, but TLE have a song on it.

[Aaron]

What is Stoneage Cameos? Sounds Hoodoo Gurus-y...
Yeah, it's a Hoodoo Gurus tribute album released 2 years ago (the name is a play on the band's first album Stoneage Romeos). I saw in my local JB Hi-Fi the other day... looks pretty good (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/id/738627).

[Colezy]

Yeah, I'd recommend it! It has some great songs on it :)

[The Dying Start]

Especially Leilani!

[atomgal]

Awesome! I'm not sure how I never knew about that, but thanks for the info, everyone. On payday, it shall be mine. :)

[Kacky]

I loooooooooove that song.

[Habibster]

Alright, my turn...

The piano part in Killing the Right, i assume that's played by Scotty??

[gaby2121]

Heres my questions has anyone ever seen Scott with nail polish? I think I seen like 1 picture but now I have not I know Chris still does the good old nail polish but yeah.

[Sarah]

without checking, didn't he wear it in a film clip...possibly the last one? i'll check


EDIT: yeah, he's wearing black nails in the Rising Sun clip :)

[The Dying Start]

Alright, my turn...

The piano part in Killing the Right, i assume that's played by Scotty??

Hang on...there's a piano part?

Heres my questions has anyone ever seen Scott with nail polish? I think I seen like 1 picture but now I have not I know Chris still does the good old nail polish but yeah.

Gaby goze two skhool!

[May]

Hang on...there's a piano part?

Glad I wasn't the only one who missed that class...

[The Dying Start]

Well HONKY TONK!

[Habibster]

haha it sounds like a piano to me, like a little piano fill or something...around 3:09 into Killing The Right, where Chris sings 'but i don't wanna listen to the voices
anymore'

[Sarah]

*shrugs* the little fairy bit?

i'm no muso, but it sounds like strings of the non-piano kind to me...

[carrymehomestead]

You are one astute motherfucker!! I thought I had studied Roll On inside and out, but I never noticed this at all. Little things like this are part of why it's easily my favorite Living End record. There is in fact a few piano chords/noodling, also an acoustic guitar and some mellow horns at the "don't wanna listen to the voices..." break in Killing The Right...tons of intricate layering, all for about 3 seconds...these are the "difficult middle eights" Chris was always talking about that he felt weighed the album down. Fucking brilliant if you ask me. Although, as seen on From Here On In, the song, among many other songs on the album, was originally much longer (you can see them ripping on an extended jam of the intro riff in one of the brief Roll On studio clips...I wish there was more media from this era).

[Sarah]

I wish there was more media from this era).


couldn't agree more!

[The Dying Start]

I wish there was more media from every era. Like from 1993 onwards.

[Neo]

I wish their whole lives was a 24/7 live reality tv show.

actually no, I took that too far didn't I?

:p

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I wish their whole lives was a 24/7 live reality tv show.

actually no, I took that too far didn't I?

:p

Yeah, just a little bit too far.:p

[Kacky]

Creeper. :p

Juuuuuuuuust kidding.


Or am I?

[Kacky]

Why doesn't the official site's photo gallery work anymore?

[Colezy]

Maybe they're updating it??

[WhitefalconTLE44]

That would be cool.:D

[Kacky]

I was thinking that...but it's been like that for a while. Ah well.

[The Dying Start]

They're updating it forever!

[i_heart_bed]

Off topic a bit.....Does anyone else think State of Emergency is well, crap, apart from maybe a few tracks? I just thought Id throw it our there, get some other opinions, maybe crap is too strong a word? But at the moment their best music in my opinion is well behind them.

[Kacky]

State Of Emergency was the TLE record that made me become a fan, so none of it to me is considered "crap".

[i_heart_bed]

But when you compare the quality of the music on SOE, the quality of the music found on the self titled, Roll on an even Hellbound, I think that they are going in the wrong direction, hate to say it but I might be starting to lose faith, not really, I blame Chris’ crash. Songs like bloody Mary were fantastic, Wake up is rubbish, Black Cat is repetitive and boring, and so on, Long Live the Weekend is great though. Anyway, just checking if anyone thinks like me

[gaby2121]

I think every Album is good and different on there on way. That's why I like TLE because its different and not the same "crap" like other bands!

[Kacky]

I agree that SOE sounds different from previous ones. I actually wouldn't mind the next record to have stuff that sounds like the Hellbound/IFYOG and self-titled eras. That would be awesome.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I think that they changed styles a little, only in being that they are not pure punkabilly anymore, so its understandable if you only like rockabilly/punkabilly, that you would not like their newer stuff. I personally think SOE is their best album by far. I love all their albums, but i think SOE is amazing.

[Bec]

I'm not really a huge fan of State Of Emergency. I like Reborn and What's On Your Radio but I think the rest of the songs are a bit ordinary.
It's good that they're taking the music in the direction they want to go rather than just keeping the same stuff though, I just wish I'd found out about them earlier so I could have heard more of their older songs live.

[Sarah]

I think every Album is good and different on there on way. That's why I like TLE because its different and not the same "crap" like other bands!

Yeah, I like that too. (although in the cases of bands like Frenzal Rhomb i love all their same old crap they keep bringing out, and I always wish Eskimo Joe had brought out one oldschool styled LP before changing direction... )

They are 4 very different albums, and whilst I love them all I think that SOE is probably me least loved. Heaps of awsome songs on there (Til the End, Into the Red, etc), just nothing that means a lot to me perhaps. But I think that has more to do with me at the time the record came out, rather than its quality. The first 3 albums I had time to listen to them on repeat for weeks at a time, but I rarely get to listen to a whole album at a time these days. But yeah, if I was stuck on an island for a month with only 3 cds, SOE definately wouldn't be one I'm afraid!

[damo0945]

to my ears, SOE is much the same musically, but recorded with a cleaner guitar sound so it doesn't have quite the same edge, i think a song like Reborn would have sounded awesome with a Roll On era sound, I do like SOE when i actually listen to it though

[Aaron]

Hellbound is still my favourite release, but there are elements I quite like right up to State Of Emergency too. I'm more comfortable with the band moving in new directions through maturity than if they were still writing rebellious punky stuff well into their adulthood. I mean, that'd be like the Offspring, ew. :p

(Provided there isn't another Modern Artillery... that album has some ripper songs on it, but it makes me cringe more than any other.)

It's funny - not everyone agrees on the 'best songs' from each album. Is that good or bad?

[Colezy]

It's funny - not everyone agrees on the 'best songs' from each album. Is that good or bad?

I think it's good. It shows that their songs appeal to people from a lot of different musical backgrounds and people with different tastes in music...if you get where I am coming from.

[The Dying Start]

SOE was a much more solid album. You could tell they meant it wheras Modern Art was patchy and measured. I love pretty much every song and every album for different reasons though.

[atomgal]

What Glenn said. ;)

I have to stick up for SOE because the songwriting is so mature, and not in a bad way. On SOE, you can really see how the band has grown musically, and I think it still has that edge that first attracted a lot of us to TLE in the first place. It's good that they're not making another Hellbound every year. I'm glad they're growing and doing different things.

Speaking of which, can't wait for the next one...!!

[Johnny_Wah]

Question: Why is it that during the recording of Mordern ARTillery, Chris and whoever was interviewed around that time said that they were happy with everything on the album in interviews, and then once the album was released it was all "oh this is a shit album blah blah blah"

[May]

Think there was a certain level of optimism going into the studio with MA.

New drummer, much hyped producer etc.

So I guess there was a good feeling about it during the process, but my impression is that once it was produced, it didn't turn out quite as they'd hoped and worked toward...

[atomgal]

Yeah, and of course, hindsight is 20/20. Also, if you made a new album and were trying to get people into your band (or just let people know you hadn't broken up after not releasing anything for a few years), you wouldn't want to say, "We're good and all, but this album didn't really turn out the way we hoped it would."

I read an interview with a guitarist once who said that he hated everything he recorded six months after it was done. I think the "coulda-woulda-shoulda" syndrome sets in about then for a lot of artists.

[Weston]

Good points! I remember them talking up the production values of State of Emergency, too, which are admittedly tremendous, but as a few of us have heard with the right headphones or speakers, there's a fair bit of background noise working its way into several tracks, which seems to be a first for them.


Now, question time! In the chorus of Short Notice, which of the vocals is Andy? I'm ninety-nine percent positive it's the lower one, but after much soul-searching I decided to ask, just to be sure.

And similarly, does anyone else have a hard time identifying Andy in the iTunes Originals commentary tracks? I could swear he sounds exactly the same as Chris, albeit a bit lower, and only realised it was Andy speaking once when he added "As Chris said earlier..." (in 'I Love Playing Live!') Is he talking in any of the other tracks?

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

Question: Why is it that during the recording of Mordern ARTillery, Chris and whoever was interviewed around that time said that they were happy with everything on the album in interviews, and then once the album was released it was all "oh this is a shit album blah blah blah"

Cynical Answer:
Because they spent a lot of money making the album and they wanted to sell cds.

*and I think you mean, several years down the track rather than as soon it came out.

[Johnny_Wah]

*and I think you mean, several years down the track rather than as soon it came out.

I guess so, because they bang on about how crap that album was in FHOI alot...

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

Do they?

The only thing I remember about that dvd is "How Excited? REAL Excited"

[gaby2121]

Here's a stupid question!
How do you approach The Living End? after gigs or before! for those who have never meet them I would be scared to just go poke them and like jump on them:D
(question for those who have experience with TLE)

:)

[mel_bound]

Now, question time! In the chorus of Short Notice, which of the vocals is Andy? I'm ninety-nine percent positive it's the lower one, but after much soul-searching I decided to ask, just to be sure.

I asked the same question when I started this thread wayyyy back hehe. I'm pretty sure it's him, it's sure as hell not Scotty and doesn't really sound like Chris either, and I think that someone said he did some vocals on that album anyway.
Can't remember the Itunes tracks though!

Here's a stupid question!
How do you approach The Living End? after gigs or before! for those who have never meet them I would be scared to just go poke them and like jump on them:D
(question for those who have experience with TLE)

:)
hehe, just go up and say hi and start a convo, they're very easy to chat to, although I reckon a poke would be alright :p
I remember at the cook off we were talking about all kind of random things, like the axing of fishcam, I miss fishcam!

[atomgal]

Here's a stupid question!
How do you approach The Living End? after gigs or before! for those who have never meet them I would be scared to just go poke them and like jump on them:D
(question for those who have experience with TLE)

:)

They're usually good about hanging out outside the bus after shows, in my experience. Sometimes you have to wait for them to get cleaned up and come out of the bus, but if there's enough of a crowd, they will come out and say hi eventually.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

I waited outside the gig after the show and when chris came out i said, "Hey, chris, awesome show" And then i just talked to him about stuff:D

[The Dying Start]

Very approachable...just be polite, and my only suggestion would be to keep your hands off because people that think they're teddybears or sex dolls really piss me off. You wouldn't hug some random in the street that you don't know, so don't do it to people you've only met via your TV or radio!

[E.B.]

You wouldn't hug some random in the street that you don't know

Speak for yourself. In regards to TLE I suppose a handshake after politely introducing yourself would be acceptable?

Another question: Whos yells out "Ape Face" in the beginning of the song? I'm guessing its Andy?

[May]

Very approachable...just be polite, and my only suggestion would be to keep your hands off because people that think they're teddybears or sex dolls really piss me off. You wouldn't hug some random in the street that you don't know, so don't do it to people you've only met via your TV or radio!

I usually get a hug and sometimes a kiss from young Chris and Andy, sometimes Scott too, but it's taken a long time for that level of familiarity to come about, and it still takes me by surprise.

Handshake and polite conversation was the go for years :)

[mel_bound]

Another question: Whos yells out "Ape Face" in the beginning of the song? I'm guessing its Andy?
Yep, it's Andy.

[RollOn]

I remember at the cook off we were talking about all kind of random things, like the axing of fishcam, I miss fishcam!

Aaahh I remember that, that was funny as! And then you had to explain what they'd put on instead of fishcam!
I miss the guys :( They need to have another cook off!

[The Dying Start]

I usually get a hug and sometimes a kiss from young Chris and Andy, sometimes Scott too, but it's taken a long time for that level of familiarity to come about, and it still takes me by surprise.

Handshake and polite conversation was the go for years :)

Same here! :D

[Kacky]

They're very approachable. I'm usually shy at first time meetings, so it took me a while to start talking. My mom was doing more talking then I was at one point. :p I felt so much better after Chris said: "Aww, you can say something. We don't bite!"

I got a hug from Andy after, but I was kinda debating whether or not I should ask him for one, because I didn't want to seem like one of those giggly girl fans. My mom was ready to leave and he was going to head back inside the venue, so I asked him while I had the chance, and he was perfectly fine with it. I don't usually ask for a lot.

My only suggestion would be to keep your hands off because people that think they're teddybears or sex dolls really piss me off.

Yeah, really. Some people need to know where to draw the line and not go overboard with stuff like that. Fortunately, there wasn't any at the show I went to. Everyone was talking to everyone without any trouble [or inappropriateness] being caused.

[gaby2121]

Thank you everyone! I heard before they are easy to talk to and stuff.
I can't wait to meet them:D

with a smile and a handshake!

[The Dying Start]

Or even better, a smile and a milkshake!

[Jessii]

They are definetly the nicest band i have ever met!

[Weston]

To go off on a tangent, I was wondering, are there any plans to revive the 'Institute in the form of a Facebook group? You know which Institute. :P Now that Facebook's slowly catching up with MySpace in popularity, there's no better way to spread the goodwill!

[mel_bound]

I rarely go on the institute anymore, and man facebook is so hard to use :p

[Weston]

Gasp! Where's the philanthropy?

[Kacky]

I rarely go on the institute anymore, and man facebook is so hard to use :p

Would you like me to make the Facebook version of "the Institute"? :p

[mel_bound]

Would you like me to make the Facebook version of "the Institute"? :p

Youuuu sure can! You can use art and stuff from the 'tute too if you want :)

[Kacky]

Annnnd the group is made! :) Clicky! (http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7909305691)

[Aaron]

Google has a music search, apparently.

It lists the usual suspects in The Living End's discography, but also one oddity: 'Stiff Middle Finger (http://www.google.com/musicl?lid=N6AkS-taLDG&aid=SxKBJkrIHtN)'.

I'm guessing Google just mis-categorised a release by a lesser-known band of the same name... but has anyone heard of this before?

[All_torn_down16]

Yeah, it's another bands album and when I first saw it I got really confused!
Plus how could anyone else have the same name as OUR Living End!? Tut tut.

[Kacky]

Yeah, I saw that too and was quite confuzzled. But then I jumped to the conclusion that there must be a few other bands out there called 'the Living End'.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

yeah, that cd is on amazon.com, and it confused me at first.

[devonuto]

I have a stupid question... has anything changed in here since May when I was last here?

[Sarah]

nope. nothing.that may be a lie though

[_jimmy_]

Heres a question. Does anyone know what Chris says very quickly on the outro of Blood On Your Hands? its very close to the end of the song.

[devonuto]

nope. nothing.that may be a lie though

Typical... the End has been very lax on the details lately.

EDIT: Ooh, sneaky... I didn't see the white text before!

[Sarah]

well, they are busy trying to get album #5 ready for us all!

[wizard_23]

I hope Chris doesnt get shingles again... i've got a mate that gets that when she gets stressed and its horrible for her. I'm prepared to wait because i know that #5's going to blow me away, but some news on the progress would be nice. pretty please...

[The Dying Start]

I have a stupid question... has anything changed in here since May when I was last here?

We missed your avatar, the same as last time you went away for an extended period of time!

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Anyone know exactly what magazine the chris cheney guitar tutorial came with?

[i_heart_you]

I have a stupid question... has anything changed in here since May when I was last here?

yeah it's been a few months since i've been on but it looks like nothing has changed. there's been no news at all? nothing? not that this is irregular with tle, but still. there's an album coming out soon (i hope). info of some sort would be pleasurable.

[Sarah]

yeah, but they're busy recording. they're not doing any shows (bar one), they're not doing any appearance, not releasing anything soon, so there isn't going to be any news. it was like this before they've released every other album, so you guys just need to chill out! they'll post some news when they've got it :)

[Johnny_Wah]

Anyone know exactly what magazine the chris cheney guitar tutorial came with?

There were a couple. One was from Australian Guitar and another from Guitar Player. Depends which one you mean.

[WhitefalconTLE44]

The one that goes for a lot of money on ebay.

[Johnny_Wah]

Any more info on it?

[mel_bound]

http://www11.asphost4free.com/tabloidmagazine/images/disc/ccgt.jpg

this one was just a promotion thing from Reprise over in the states as far as I know.

[Johnny_Wah]

OOOH THAT ONE.

I've got it. Not gonna distribute it though.

[mel_bound]

I also have it :D

[Johnny_Wah]

pssst whered you get yours?

[Neo]

I found some guy selling one in some forum and I asked him about it but he never got back :( i really want one!

[Colezy]

Yeah, that cd is one of the last few things I want to add to my collection.

[mel_bound]

pssst whered you get yours?

ebay... about $40 australian too, not bad:cool:

[Kacky]

:( i really want one!

I think a lot of us do! Let's hope one [or a few] turn up! :cool: Whenever that'll be...

[Neo]

yeah it sucks that alot of people only have it as a collectors item when there are guitarists out there who would actually use it. it is a guitar tutorial after all

[Sarah]

that's why i've never bothered getting one before.

i seem to remember them being in the online store many moons ago, but as i didn't even have a guitar (that i still don't play) back then it didn't feel right getting the tute.

[_jimmy_]

what does Chris show you on the CD? a guitar lesson no doubt but what?

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Somewhere i remember reading he teaches Carry me home, but i'm not positive.

[Johnny_Wah]

Yeah, he does

[kempos2112]

POS, Roll On and Carry Me Home, i got a copy of it off my guitar teacher back in the day, im kicking myself that i didnt go out and get the actual mag, was a really good interview with tabs for 3 solos and stuff. (i did get a photocoppy of it).

[Weston]

So like, what in the Sam Hill is Chris' natural hair colour? Dark brown, right?

[Amur]

who cares! it's whatever on the inside and always bright on the outside =)
best combination when even oldest fans can't remember you natural hair color :p

[May]

best combination when even oldest fans can't remember you natural hair color :p

Says who??

[gaby2121]

Does any one who yells out Ape Face in the beginning of the song?

could it be Andy?

[Kacky]

I remember reading that it was Andy. So I think you're right.

[mel_bound]

it's Andy!

[WhitefalconTLE44]

Question: How rare is the Carry me Home cd single? I just saw a picture of it, but didn't remember hearing about it being released on a cd single. I guess it was just a radio promo but just wondering how rare they are to find and how much i might need to cough up for one.

[The Dying Start]

So like, what in the Sam Hill is Chris' natural hair colour? Dark brown, right?

Strawberry Blonde as far as i know. There's one photo i know of where he's completely natural. Circa 97 or 98 i think.

[Weston]

Ooh la laa, cheers! I mean, that really takes a special kinda dedication on Chris' part!

[Amur]

can someone write Roll On maxi CD single tracklisting? (one with video)

thanks

[Colezy]

As far as I know it, the "Maxi" cd is just the UK release of Roll On...(someone correct me if I'm wrong!)

1. Roll On
2. PITM live at the wireless
3. The Man With No Name
4. Roll On video

[Weston]

Have a quick listen:
http://media.putfile.com/Red-Letters-and-The-Room

In the left speaker, the intro to The Room. (I'll take down the link, if it's breaching copyright for me to have that up there) In the right speaker, the intro to dc Talk's 'Red Letters' (also follows a similar mini-epic structure), from the end of their 1998 album 'Supernatural'. The pitch, the chords, the unearthly synth sounds, it's a coincidence, right? Or, is Mark Trombino just a really big fan of Christian rap?

[Colezy]

I don't get your point...it clearly states that it is The Room and that is from Modern Artillery (says so in the little info bar in media player).

I don't know what it is exactly, but it looks like its just a file someone has uploaded to the site under the "Music, bands, singing" category. Maybe the person thought that the two songs sounded good together and stuck up there?? Who knows.

[damo0945]

i haven't listened to it, but i'm guessing the two songs are similar and that they're both being played at the same time on that track

[Colezy]

yeah they're both being played at the same time...the room coming thru the left speaker, the other from the right.

[Weston]

Hm? Sorry for the confusion, Colezy, I was the one who put them together and uploaded the file there. I thought it was pretty interesting how similarly they both played out, with the same pitches, especially as the beginnings of 'mini rock operas', and wondered if anyone else thought Mark Trombino was influenced by Red Letters, or if it's just a coincidence. (The synthesised noises don't strike me as a touch that Chris, Owen or Andy would have added, so I figured it was the producer's idea)

[gaby2121]

so I was watching Tv in Mexico and some concert of THE CURE came on and they were playing 10:15 Saturday night is that like there song and TLE is covering it or what's the deal cuz I saw on their CD its written by someone else.

[May]

TLE covered the Cure's song 10:15.

[E.B.]

Just got back from Schoolies, anything been happening in TLE land in the last week?