New Album not a Conspiracy

[Adam]

Hey, just for those who don't receive mail, or don't check the website, or don't have myspace or whatever.

"... This will be followed up by a couple of festival dates back home including The Great Escape in Sydney, before setting to work on a new album."

Just thought I'd put this up for future news/refrences or the mods can just delete it i don't care.

anyway, great news. cya.

[The Dying Start]

Yupp...already had word for a while. But thanks Adam!

[Aaron]

The recent trend of announcing stuff over Myspace or whatever is stupid - what's the point of publicising a fan mailing list if it never gets used for these type of announcements?

[atomgal]

I have to agree. I really don't enjoy MySpace and rarely ever log in. It feels like a long time since I've gotten an email from TLE.

[Amur]

I haven't ever got it :(
e-mail list seems to be useless.

[kelso]

guess they're not coming back here after all :(

[Kacky]

That doesn't suprise me at all, really. Dang. :(

[stray_cat]

That's good. Finally some more TLE! I know it'll be good stuff. The faster the album gets out, the faster they come back to America and go on Warped Tour '07! Hopefully!:D

[Kacky]

Living in North America can be a real downer sometimes. :p

[kelso]

if they come back to warped
i'll pee myself
that would be so amazing haha

[i_heart_you]

i'd rather they do the small venue's tour again. warped is so...large. too many bands, not enough time!


and i agree with whoever said they should use the mailing list instead of myspace. if they send out a myspace bulliten, and you're not online at that exact moment, you never see it (unless you go through the pages upon pages upon PAGES of useless crap bullitens)

[Kacky]

Yeah, it's muchly annoying to go through pages of bulletins to find the one you're looking for.

[Adam]

I highly, highly doubt that they won't come back to America. I'm guessing their next album will *probably, maybe, might be* their last... therefore i reckon they'll go on a world tour.. or something along those lines.

But, I could be wrong. I'd prefer that they do what they did last year, have a huge promoted big venue aus tour, then a 'rural' tour... But it's all in the future.

p.s: to Glenn, sorry i was unaware that people already knew, i guess i posted it up cause it was official...

[TreCoola]

Also in the message that was sent out it said they were going to be in NYC doing promo stuff, has anyone heard word of exact dates?

[BennyD]

by the sounds of it the album won't come out untill next year anyways, the rest of this year will be demoing and possibly recording i reckon. if the album is as good as soe i can definatly wait for it.

[Johnny_Wah]

I'm guessing their next album will *probably, maybe, might be* their last...

Don't say that! Gee I hope you're wrong. Long Live The Living End!

[mel_bound]

Don't say that! Gee I hope you're wrong. Long Live The Living End!

I really highly doubt it, they seem so happy right now, y'know, touring the world and playing gigs and stuff. Although family commitments would increase in the next few years... hmm.

[Adam]

haha this is the perfect foundation for a photoshop challenge... imagine them with grey hair.

but more seriously, id rather wait a whole year if it's going to be on par/better than SOE, it'd be well worth the wait.

[Loo C]

by the sounds of it the album won't come out untill next year anyways, the rest of this year will be demoing and possibly recording i reckon.
Yeah, new albums always take longer than the band says they will.....they've gotta write the tunes, rehearse them, demo them, try them out at gigs and finally record them. I'm hoping for early 2008. And in my opinion if the next album's as good as SOE it'll be a corker!! :)

[mel_bound]

They need to get a single out this year for the hottest 100 though! :p

[jessebelle]

Haha. Mel your always thinking ahead for these types of things aren't you?

[luke_the edge_dragons]

They need to get a single out this year for the hottest 100 though! :p

rising sun cover????????
it said there was a video...so maybe that means a single as well...

[Rae]

i'd rather they do the small venue's tour again. warped is so...large. too many bands, not enough time!


and i agree with whoever said they should use the mailing list instead of myspace. if they send out a myspace bulliten, and you're not online at that exact moment, you never see it (unless you go through the pages upon pages upon PAGES of useless crap bullitens)

You could always try reading the front page news on the site too. You're all right though, we've been a little slack doing the news via email as well. It takes SOOOOOOO long to do (like, hours) and MySpace is done in 5 seconds. It's good to get this feedback though.

[Evil Chris]

The Living End seem to release albums quite quickly. They are quite fast. By watching the documentrys i can tell chris writes like 10 songs a day.

Chris Cheney is one mutha fucken genius!

[mel_bound]

Re. news: if you're on the forum someone's probably going to mention it somewhere, but I do understand that not everyone lives on the internet trawling every single thread and myspace bulletin haha.

The Living End seem to release albums quite quickly. They are quite fast. By watching the documentrys i can tell chris writes like 10 songs a day.
TLE have had 4 full length albums in their 12ish or more years, some bands churn out an album every year. They are completely the opposite in my view, not that it matters. Quality over quantity!

[Evil Chris]

They started writing for state of emergency like early 2005. And was released like a year later. Thats what I meant. Compared to others, they do things quite quickly. They are very hard working. The harder working you are, the faster you get things done.

[mel_bound]

Comparitively I'd say that's slow! Take note that the previous album was released in October 2003, that's 2 and a bit years between those albums. Not including FHOI, because they only had to record 2 songs for that. But then they toured. And also, songs like Into The Red were many years older, but Chris has said they usually use new songs for albums. I can't think of a good example of a band who churns albums out every year, but there are some. I probably can't think of any because they probably all fizzle out after the 2nd album.

[The Dying Start]

I agree that they take longer than most bands, but it's always worth it!

[kelso]

I'm hoping for early 2008.
if they aim for 2008, that means that Green Day will have their album done around that time too
which means....

GREEN DAY AND THE LIVING END WORLD TOUR! :eek:

yep yep I can wait :D

[Jodez]

if they aim for 2008, that means that Green Day will have their album done around that time too
which means....

GREEN DAY AND THE LIVING END WORLD TOUR! :eek:

yep yep I can wait :D

OH :eek: :D Excitment Overload

well.....That would be the BEST concert EVER in the History of Music.....Yeah....wishing maybe

[Madtwins]

Hey it's a great news! We also didn't see a bulletin of TLE. Hope they will release a new album this fall or next spring.

[Outlaw Love Song]

by the sounds of it the album won't come out untill next year anyways, the rest of this year will be demoing and possibly recording i reckon. if the album is as good as soe i can definatly wait for it.

and the best thing about preparing for a new album..... more Longnecks and Don Caster and the Dandy Nongs/Glen Waverley and The Mentones shows to "roadtest" the material! ;)

[kelso]

OH :eek: :D Excitment Overload

well.....That would be the BEST concert EVER in the History of Music.....Yeah....wishing maybe

yeah it would
the "best concert in 20 years" haha
one can wish, right?:rolleyes: :D

[NowhereTown]

I would kill to se Greenday and Living End world tour

[BonesTLE]

Who would you kill? :D

[The Dying Start]

My immediate family

[Johnny_Wah]

My immediate family

Issues. I'd happily kill a spider though.

[The Dying Start]

Oh yeah.Immediate family AND Johnny

[Evil Chris]

I would kill the boys them selves for that concert...

[NowhereTown]

Who would you kill? :D

wolfmother.... and the veronicas

[Amur]

I would kill the boys them selves for that concert...
very clever act,pshhh :D

[Julian]

I'd kill Evil Chris for a free Hungry Jacks upgrade voucher

[Bec]

I'd kill Evil Chris for a free Hungry Jacks upgrade voucher

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/AJP402/you_win_the_prize.jpg

[The Dying Start]

Some of my best friends are Downies.

[kelso]

I would kill the boys them selves for that concert...

well that would be useless

[TreCoola]

..GREEN DAY AND THE LIVING END WORLD TOUR! :eek: ..

Oh god.
Don't say that.
I'll have a heartattack. ahah.
That's pretty much my dream tour.
[I know they toured together before, but this one I'd actually be able to go to...]

[Falcon Of Death]

wolfmother.... and the veronicas

excellent idea! ... maybe pink too?

[WHITE FALCON]

excellent idea! ... maybe pink too?

awww come on wolfmother are good!

veronica's are eye candy.

pink well, yeah you can kill her!

[NowhereTown]

awww come on wolfmother are good!


pfft, not in my book

[WHITE FALCON]

lol what makes them bad?

because andrew stockdale cant solo like chris can?

how fucking good is miles at drums? he's easily up there with andy and chris cester!

[WHITE FALCON]

I'd kill Evil Chris for a free Hungry Jacks upgrade voucher

hahahah good call!

i'de probs do it for a cheese burger. mmmm yum!

[Evil Chris]

well that would be useless

its called a joke..geez. I aint that dumb.

[Julian]

lol what makes them bad?

because andrew stockdale cant solo like chris can?

how fucking good is miles at drums? he's easily up there with andy and chris cester!

You'd be a bit of a dingbat to say Wolfmother aren't talented. They're good live and their musicianship is pretty solid. They just aren't my cup of tea.

[WHITE FALCON]

yeah understandable!

they're sort of an aquired(spelling?) taste :p

[WHITE FALCON]

its called a joke..geez. I aint that dumb.

some would argue....

[NowhereTown]

You'd be a bit of a dingbat to say Wolfmother aren't talented. They're good live and their musicianship is pretty solid. They just aren't my cup of tea.

basicly sums up what i was going to say

[WHITE FALCON]

sounds good to me :)

i personally like Jet over wolfmother.

[NowhereTown]

i also dislike jet... its very hard to get into my good book...

[WHITE FALCON]

shit!

come one. whats wrong with jet!

[Julian]

Jets new stuff sounds alot better than Get Born

[NowhereTown]

thers just something about them that i don't like...

[Evil Chris]

I know, all their songs sounds the same. Well, that is on their Get Born album.

[The Dying Start]

That's a pretty ignorant comment. They don't sound the same at all...unless you're deaf or something. In which case, I'm sorry.

I don't mind Jet, or Wolfmother...we all know it's been done before, but i still like it. It's not up there at the top of my list or anything, but you could do a helluva lot worse!

[WHITE FALCON]

I know, all their songs sounds the same. Well, that is on their Get Born album.

hahaha your a tool lol

how does cold hard bitch sound anything like move on? or
how does lazy gun sound anything like are you gonna be my girl?

that was probably the stupidest thing i have heard.

and yeah i know what you mean glenn but you know, some people like it some people dont, i guess im just one who does :)

[dirty man]

...........or how does timothy sound anything like anything else

[i_heart_you]

hahaha your a tool lol
that was probably the stupidest thing i have heard.

ouch, that was rather harsh.
people have different preferences of music, and those preferences reflect how we personally hear music.

a lot of classic rock sounds the same to me, because i don't listen to it that much.
does that make me a tool? not really.
is that a stupid statement? no, not at all. it just means i haven't acquired tastes for that type of music.


on another note...
some people like it some people dont, i guess im just one who does :)

make that two. i like jet. they're good for dancin'.

[The Dying Start]

Are you Evil Chris now, too?

[i_heart_you]

haha no, i'm just saying...

someone has to take their side.

[The Dying Start]

No, no one really needs to.

[i_heart_you]

i felt bad. :(

[Kacky]

Aww, Sarah.

[Sarah]

I've held off having an opinion on Jet until I had either seen a show of theirs, or bought at least one album. I really liked Are You Gonna Be My Girl, well, I still like that song - its simple and catchy and just good fun.

However, seeing it live was terribly disappointing. As was seeing Jet. The singer dude (Chris or Nick, I can never remember!) was pretty wasted, and apparently the show was pretty average compared to their BDO shows - but if you can't hold it together for a bit over an hour a day then you might as well not bother in my book.

I have one of those Jet chick tees (black and white with a pink 'Jet' and 'Shine On') that I want to give away if anyone wants it. It's tiny though - you wouldn't want to be bigger than a size 8, and you'd have to like things tight. haha, I managed to get it on somehow, but had to get someone to take it off for me, not a very pleasant experience!

As for Wolfmother, the guys hair just gives me the shits.

And the Vines do absolutely nothing for me. Get Free was a pretty nothing song, and it went down hill from there as far as I'm concerned!

/Sarah's rant on current Aussie rock

[thelivingvines]

Vines are one of my favourites- easily up there with TLE- I think to get into them you have to see past all the 2002 hype and look into the other songs a bit more. Their songs are incredibly diverse and Craig has a great ear for a hook and has an amazing voice and is incredible with harmonies. Get Free isn't among my favourite songs of theirs at all- they do that whole thing really well but they do other types of song so much better.
Sure, they've had their fair share of off days; but they have 3 great albums behind them. About to hit the studio to record the 4th sometime this month.

[Sarah]

I don't suppose you have one of those live TLE/Vines radio cds from the US do you?? :)

[thelivingvines]

I may well do without knowing it... you mean from the aussie invasion tour? something in particular you want? I'll certainly know someone who has it even if I don't.

[luke_the edge_dragons]

we've gone a bit off topic but here's my 2 cents on aussie rock:
the vines have a couple of ok songs but other than that they dont have much...plus their lead singer is a dickhead. i saw them on music max on 'later with jools holland' and he is just a wanker who screams and kicks drums over. maybe if he just stood and sang they'd be better.

i like jet a lot and saw them at the sydney BDO & thought they played really well. i think they are just a no nonsense rock n roll band which is what i like.

wolfmother are great muusically but their singer's voice can get on my nerves if i listen to them too much...but other than that i think they are good.

eskimo joe are overrated & overplayed (yet better than the vines)

but...none of them have anything on the living end!!

[Habibster]

I wouldn't say Eskimo Joe are overrated.....They are definetely overplayed, but i wouldnt go as far as to say overrated. A few of their songs have had me hooked for a little while, but other than that i don't like them that much.

[The Dying Start]

The Skies have been doing it well for quite some time now. Good on them.

Jet were okay at BDO 2004 or whatever it was

Wolfmother are pretty good live, I don't mind em

The Vines I can't stand...haven't yet found a song i like.

[thelivingvines]

we've gone a bit off topic but here's my 2 cents on aussie rock:
the vines have a couple of ok songs but other than that they dont have much...plus their lead singer is a dickhead. i saw them on music max on 'later with jools holland' and he is just a wanker who screams and kicks drums over. maybe if he just stood and sang they'd be better.
!

Um... hate to break it to ya pal but that was before he was diagnosed as an aspergers syndrome sufferer... he basically didn't know what he was doing. those performances were in 2003 if they're the ones i am thinking of- painful to watch. I think you'll find that since vision valley came out and he has learned to deal with his AS their live performaces have been incredible. so, in conclusion, not a dickhead or a wanker; just a highly functioning autistic.
Also, if you had listened to them enough, and this goes for any of you- you at least have to conceed that he has an incredible ear and an incredible voice.

[Julian]

I don't think that at all. I've heard a few of their LATW's and they were pretty ordanairy.

And Eskimo Joe are awesome

[thelivingvines]

I don't think that at all. I've heard a few of their LATW's and they were pretty ordanairy.

And Eskimo Joe are awesome

read any of the reviews from big day out? or heard about their awesome comeback at splendour? or the small gigs at the annandale?

[Aaron]

The last Vines LATW was surprisingly boring.

[thelivingvines]

so you're basing your opinion on that one gig are you? well let me put it in context for you. At the end of the tour for winning days, Craig was charged with assault after he kicked the camera out of the hand of a member of the press in front of the stage. Their bassest left the band. Craig was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome. His mental stability has been severely at risk after his chosen profession had placed him in the worst possible environment for someone suffering from AS. To all it seemed like the vines were over- at least that's what everyone thought.
Craig went through months of intensive therapy and was being dosed up on valium to keep him calm through the court proceedings and in dealing with everythign else that they had been through. Vision Valley is an album written by a broken man writing from a dark dark place. The LATW performance was the first gig they had played in front of any sort of audience in 3 years. They had just about everything on the line at that gig, their record company, their jobs, their album... pretty much everything they had established before it all went wrong in 2004. Don't you think it's understandable that they may be a little cautious and incredibly nervous? you can see it in the performance. I agree its not their best but everything since then has been worthy of at least some praise whether you like their music particularly or not. Read the reviews, go see them if you get the chance.
I don't expect you to convert or anything; I understand that you might not like their music in particular, but you have to acknowledge their talent whether its something you particularly enjoy or not.

[ace_jase]

Craig was charged with assault after he kicked the camera out of the hand of a member of the press in front of the stage.

I would have loved to have seen that MMM gig.

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[The Dying Start]

I tink Thelivingvines should just give up the defensive, and come to terms with the fact that not many people on here like the vines music, and alot can't recognise much talent in them either, mental issues or none.

How about a new TLE album then?!!

[NowhereTown]

How about a new TLE album then?!!

should be a corker

[cammo]

Just to throw another opinion in before the subject gets back on track. I used to be a fan of The Vines but I though they were just rubbish live at BDO

[Julian]

I don't expect you to convert or anything; I understand that you might not like their music in particular, but you have to acknowledge their talent whether its something you particularly enjoy or not.
What the fuck? No I don't. I'll say what I like, I heard it with my own ears. I thought it was ordanairy. I don't give a shit what the reviews are saying

[Evil Chris]

hahaha your a tool lol

how does cold hard bitch sound anything like move on? or
how does lazy gun sound anything like are you gonna be my girl?

that was probably the stupidest thing i have heard.

and yeah i know what you mean glenn but you know, some people like it some people dont, i guess im just one who does :)

There singles.


Cold Hard Bitch, Roll Over DJ, Are You Gonna Be My Girl and that last one I forgot. They sound the same. When I first heard them I thought theyd be alright. But I wasnt really into collecting CDs then. I heard them on the radio and all the same music. I was once singing to a song that I thought was Roll Over DJ but it was Cold Hard Bitch.

[Julian]

Those songs sound nothing alike. And they have so many ballads that I don't know what you are on by saying they all sound the same.

[Evil Chris]

I presumed they all sound the same cos of the singles you hear on the radio. The only one that wasn't even any similar was look what you done. And Shine On, well, that Album is a massive improvement. And by the way. I like The Vines. They are a very good band, something I would reccomend.

[Colezy]

So I hear that some Aussie band called The Living End are going to record a new album in the near future... HINT FRICKEN HINT PEOPLE.


:)

[Evil Chris]

Yes, a new album. Another batch of 14 classics to add to my Living End collection. Which is kinda average. I havent even been to a Concert in my life. And I call myself a fan lol

[Colezy]

I first heard POS/SS in 97 and didn't go to my first TLE gig until 2004..if I lived in another state, I reckon I would have seen them sooner.

Anyway, I wonder what sort of direction this album will go in and what sort of feel/sound it will have to it? I'd like to see a slow-ish song on it..one that really shows the potential of Chris' voice :) (I hope you all understand what I mean! :p)

[tanguyen]

I wouldn't mind seeing a little EP as a stopgap sort of thing in between albums. Like I think it was One Said To The Other EP. Or play in space.

[Bec]

My first TLE gig was a few months after my first cd of theirs, and I don't think I've missed an underage melbourne gig since then.

Personally I wasn't too keen on SOE so I'm hoping their next album goes in a different direction. I really like what they did with Rising Sun so I'd love it if their new album sounded similar to that.

[thelivingvines]

I tink Thelivingvines should just give up the defensive, and come to terms with the fact that not many people on here like the vines music, and alot can't recognise much talent in them either, mental issues or none.

How about a new TLE album then?!!

fuck that, I'm allowed to be as defensive as I like. I couldn't care less if you don't like them- but if you can't acknowledge talent then you simply don't know anything about music. I think you'll find a lot of people still love the vines and their audiences testify that. Just because they aren't the 'trend of the moment' doesn't mean that they aren'y any good any more. There are plenty of people out there who don't like the living end for whatever reason and you know perfectly well that you would expect them to acknowledge at the very least that they are great song writers and great musicians.
Sure, Craig might not be an amazing guitarist- but he has an incredible- and i mean incredible- vioce. And a great talent for writing catchy tunes. If you can't acknowledge that then I would question how much of them you have actually listened to beyond the singles they have released and I would also question whether you know anything about music at all.

[thelivingvines]

What the fuck? No I don't. I'll say what I like, I heard it with my own ears. I thought it was ordanairy. I don't give a shit what the reviews are saying

awh, look at the big man getting all riled up because he knows he's wrong. You heard a gig in the context of what I explained above. Go listen to their albums before you express another opinion. You clearly know nothing.

[Julian]

I've never got a Vines song stuck in my head but it'd be pretty terrible if one did

[mel_bound]

I love this forum :p

[Liz]

Cold Hard Bitch, Roll Over DJ, Are You Gonna Be My Girl and that last one I forgot. They sound the same.

You're shitting me right?

They don't sound anything like each other.

[thelivingvines]

I first heard POS/SS in 97 and didn't go to my first TLE gig until 2004..if I lived in another state, I reckon I would have seen them sooner.

Anyway, I wonder what sort of direction this album will go in and what sort of feel/sound it will have to it? I'd like to see a slow-ish song on it..one that really shows the potential of Chris' voice :) (I hope you all understand what I mean! :p)

well they've done low production, they've done high production, they've tried for the live sound and didn't feel like they pulled it off but accidentally made a friggin awesome record in the process... I think they could try for the live sound again and see what happens. I hope they come up with something like wake up again. I'm generally not so much of a fan of their slow numbers, somehow it doesn't suit them, but that one is immense.

[Bec]

Saying someone is talented is just a matter of opinion though, it depends what you consider talented.

If someone says that TLE aren't talented, I disagree but it doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they have a different idea of talent to me.

[Julian]

And lots of people that don't like tle say they aren't very talented. I've heard alot of bad remarks about Chris' guitar playing and vocals

[mel_bound]

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

Yeah I can't wait for that new TLE album!

[Julian]

Shut up, Mel. I like to argue

[thelivingvines]

I've never got a Vines song stuck in my head but it'd be pretty terrible if one did

you've resorted to calling their music terrible based on virtually nothing at all. You're just making yourself look ignorant now.

[Julian]

You're ignorant....






































IN THE NUDE

[thelivingvines]

Saying someone is talented is just a matter of opinion though, it depends what you consider talented.

If someone says that TLE aren't talented, I disagree but it doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they have a different idea of talent to me.]

there's a difference between liking something and acknowledging talent. Musical ability isn't subjective. If someone tells you that they think chris isn't a good guitarist or that he can't sing then they clearly don't know what a good guitarist or a good singer is regardless of the style they play. Being able to acknowledge talent whether it is something you particularly like or not shows you at least have some knowledge of what a good musician sounds like. Fucked if I like any classical music- but I can acknowledge that Mozart was talented. Same goes for dreamtheatre- I don't like any of what they do at all, but you would have to be an idiot to say they are shit at music.

[mel_bound]

Shut up, Mel. I like to argue

I gathered that hahahaha.

I'm just gonna go over there now :p

[thelivingvines]

You're ignorant....
IN THE NUDE

I'm actually in PJs and an aussie rugby jersey right now. very cosy.

[Colezy]

I don't usually get too annoyed, but for fucks sake people, if you want to talk about the vines, go and make a thread about them and quit talking about them in this thread.



And for the record, what I meant by a slowish song was something with maybe just an acoustic guitar, drums and vocals..oh and I guess you've gotta fit that huge-arse bass in there somewhere :p

[Julian]

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there's a difference between liking something and acknowledging talent. Musical ability isn't subjective. If someone tells you that they think chris isn't a good guitarist or that he can't sing then they clearly don't know what a good guitarist or a good singer is regardless of the style they play. Being able to acknowledge talent whether it is something you particularly like or not shows you at least have some knowledge of what a good musician sounds like. Fucked if I like any classical music- but I can acknowledge that Mozart was talented. Same goes for dreamtheatre- I don't like any of what they do at all, but you would have to be an idiot to say they are shit at music.

Of course talent is subjective. What you just said was pretty ignorant

[Colezy]

JULIAN!!!!!!!!!! :mad:























:p Quit it would ya?!

[mel_bound]

I don't usually get too annoyed, but for fucks sake people, if you want to talk about the vines, go and make a thread about them and quit talking about them in this thread.

thank you Nicole

[Colezy]

Anytime Mel :)
I usually like to let the Mods do their job, but yeah...had to butt in this time.

[Julian]

Yeah, I agree. The Vines do suck majorly

[thelivingvines]

Of course talent is subjective. What you just said was pretty ignorant

of course its not. are you telling me its perfectly ok to say that someone like brian setzer isn't talented? is it ok to say that matt bellamy isn't talented, or jeff buckley? that fine with you is it? it fuckin shouldn't be cos although some people may not like what they play they are clearly talented individuals. Obviously, like absolutely anything in this world there has to be a bit of a grey area.

[thelivingvines]

Yeah, I agree. The Vines do suck majorly

so's yer face.

[Bec]

Do we need to make a new thread for this?

[thelivingvines]

no, you guys just need to relax and stop being so anal about keeping the forum 'neat and tidy.' people are perfectly capable of skipping pages they don't want to read... I think this is pretty much done anyway.

[Julian]

Well we started the page about this. We may as well finish it

[thelivingvines]

I'm not repeating myself again, you know what I think and we should leave it at that.

[Julian]

Lets just all agree that the Vines are really bad

[mel_bound]

Anytime Mel :)
I usually like to let the Mods do their job, but yeah...had to butt in this time.

Yep, same here. I don't mind it usually but this has gone on for pages and pages and it's fucking stupid :)

And I'm not in a particularly good mood too.

Rising Sun is a fucking cool song, pumped for a new album.

VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO!!!!

[Colezy]

no, you guys just need to relax and stop being so anal about keeping the forum 'neat and tidy.' people are perfectly capable of skipping pages they don't want to read... I think this is pretty much done anyway.
People don't want to have to skip through pages and pages of shit when they're reading through threads in General Endness.
Off topic is a little different, and The Room is full of shit anyway, so take your convos about The Vines to either The Room or make another thread especially for that band.


And yes, I also can't wait to see the video for this track, especially if it's as good as the song sounds! :D

[Bec]

no, you guys just need to relax and stop being so anal about keeping the forum 'neat and tidy.' people are perfectly capable of skipping pages they don't want to read... I think this is pretty much done anyway.
And are people not also perfectly capable of posting in the right thread to save others from sorting through pages of arguments to find what the thread is meant to be about? Not everybody has super-speedy internet.

There's nothing wrong with debating the talent of the vines but at least take it to the room if not a vines related thread.

OKAY, SORRY I'M DONE!

NEW ALBUM! AWESOME :D

What are people hoping for?

[Julian]

A new album isn't for ages. Rising Sun and the promo stuff will only set it back. And there's already a thread about Rising Sun.

[Bec]

Doesn't mean we can't talk about it.

[Colezy]

I don't think we'll have much of an idea of how the new one will sound until we actually have it to listen too. Seriously, it could go ANY direction, but I have a feeling it will be a corker!

[Julian]

Yeah, well everyone needs to talk about Rising Sun in the Rising Sun thread OR THIS BOARD WILL FALL INTO CHAOS AND WE WILL ALL DIE.

[Bec]

Well it's a good thing people are keeping on topic in there then :p

[thelivingvines]

you can't control the course of conversation though can you? that's the only reason this broke out.

[Colezy]

Yeah, well everyone needs to talk about Rising Sun in the Rising Sun thread OR THIS BOARD WILL FALL INTO CHAOS AND WE WILL ALL DIE.
Gah, That was partially the point of my posts in this thread! :p

I'd like to hear Andy singing on this album!

[mel_bound]

I'd like to hear Andy singing on this album!

GOD YES!

He did some backing vox on Mod Art but I can't really hear him, except perhaps in Short Notice... and lets not forget The Flintstones! :D
But yeah that'd be really cool.

[Colezy]

Yeah, Short Notice seems to be the only one you can hear him on..but he really should do some more singing!

[Julian]

I'd like to see Chris play some double bass

[Bec]

That would be interesting to see live.. an instrument swap thing. I wonder if they'll ever do it..

Probably not but it'd be cool.

[Loo C]

And for the record, what I meant by a slowish song was something with maybe just an acoustic guitar, drums and vocals..
I was thinking about that the other day actually.....heaps of other bands have the token just-acoustic-guitar-and-vocals song on their albums, but TLE have never done it. Not to be mean to Chris or anything, but I wonder whether it would sound any good? It's just so hard to imagine TLE not rocking out, even in their 'slower' songs! :)

[Evil Chris]

I first heard POS/SS in 97 and didn't go to my first TLE gig until 2004..if I lived in another state, I reckon I would have seen them sooner.

Anyway, I wonder what sort of direction this album will go in and what sort of feel/sound it will have to it? I'd like to see a slow-ish song on it..one that really shows the potential of Chris' voice :) (I hope you all understand what I mean! :p)

Blue Moon Of Kentucky is a perfect example of what you'd like to see, hey? That song is a great cover.

[hillaas]

OK, so just reading this thread i skipped the last few pages when it got to Jet. Has there been any word from the band about the release of the new album or is it just the myspace bulletins that they have sent out?

[Bec]

OH LOOK! Somebody doesn't know if they've missed out on any significant information because there was so much off-topic discussion in this thread :p

And no Andre, there hasn't. Or not as far as I'm aware anyway.

[hillaas]

Thank's for that Bec!

(Bec's right, you guys do post a lot of crap since i left. I guess you're just trying to fill the hole of Andre crap posts)

[i_heart_you]

if i had to hope this new album sounds like one of the past ones...i'd hope for it sounding more like roll on....but i doubt that it will, because that was just one phase, and they've already covered it.


but it's still my fav. :]

[Colezy]

OH LOOK! Somebody doesn't know if they've missed out on any significant information because there was so much off-topic discussion in this thread :p

And no Andre, there hasn't. Or not as far as I'm aware anyway.
Hahahah. I love you Bec! :p

Thank's for that Bec!

(Bec's right, you guys do post a lot of crap since i left. I guess you're just trying to fill the hole of Andre crap posts)

Yeah, Bec's right. It's just been rumours and then the myspace bulletin :)
And the hole of Andre crap is long from being filled! :p

[The Dying Start]

I dunno how it'd be with Andy singing. Definately not lead, but let him do some shouts and backing, for sure.

It'd be interesting if we could get Scott on lead for one song...his singing has come a long way since 95...i reckon he could pull it off. He's a bit higher up so perhaps he could do a slower song. who knows. Even if he doesn't go up front, just bring back proper backing vocals from Scotty (and Andy)...I realise having Chris sing his own backing makes for a more perfect sound, but quite frankly...fuck that. This is the best live band in the country, let them record an album wth the same essential formula.

Further to that, I think they should once again go for the balls-out, live rock and roll feel on this album. They tried it on the last album but everything got big on them again (perhaps with the exception of Into The Red)...strip it back again and have another crack....and I love the idea of keeping studio cutoff in the mix at the end...like andy striking in to the first song, and the off the cuff comments in the background.

Oh, and how about we get a new album...coz i can't wait...even if it's electro. (I just like to appear picky!)

[Sarah]

Oh, and how about we get a new album...coz i can't wait...even if it's electro. (I just like to appear picky!)

haha, yeah, after hearing Rising Sun I'd happily settle for a covers album to tide me over :)

But seriously, new material would kick serious arse!

[The Dying Start]

Bring The NOIZE!

[WHITE FALCON]

I dunno how it'd be with Andy singing. Definately not lead, but let him do some shouts and backing, for sure.

yeahh that would be goo like he did for one step behind, he did the harmony with scott and that is a pretty high pitched harmony so he has got a good range!


It'd be interesting if we could get Scott on lead for one song...his singing has come a long way since 95...

shit yes it has! watching the really old school video's he did very little singing, and the harmony's in a song like second solution are not much compared to nothing last's forever or what's on your radio.


I realise having Chris sing his own backing makes for a more perfect sound, but quite frankly...fuck that.

this is the best reply i have seen your write glenn! i totally agree. if your gonna do it live you may aswell play it on the record like your gonna do it live. especially with vocal harmony's and stuff like that. i mean a solo like til the end obviously you cant do live and sounds awesome on the record so you could keep something like that but just a straight up rock'n'roll song like a AC/DC song would be awesome.


and I love the idea of keeping studio cutoff in the mix at the end...like andy striking in to the first song, and the off the cuff comments in the background.


"my hi hats fell apart". do you rekon he said that on purpose or he jsut said it coz he thought they would cut it out?

[Bec]

This may come as a bit of a shock, but I reckon he said that because his hi-hats fell apart.

Hahahah. I love you Bec! :p
Naww I love you too Nicole!


And I'd also like to hear Scott/Andy on backing vocals. I find it sounds kinda weird having two or more Chrisses singing at once.

[WHITE FALCON]

sorry i fucked up the whole quoting thing lol

[The Dying Start]

I fixed your quotes champ.

[Shadow]

Is Nick Launay producing the new one? (yeah... I posted in the 'stupid questions thread' but it's not really a stupid question now, is it?)

[thelivingvines]

I hope so, you would think that he would want to considering the way he was talking about them on the DVD. I reckon they work really well together. I guess it all comes down to what they want to do with this album- whether they want to try the live sound thing again.I wonder if they will ever produce an album by themselves.

[The Dying Start]

More likely it all comes down to whether the timing fits in or both parties.

I dare say they'd want to work with Nick again,it's just about getting it to happen, plus any other people they might like to work with that they'll aproach

[WHITE FALCON]

so when do they finish touring?

[Colezy]

They never finish touring.

[Erin]

i was gonna say!! :D

[WHITE FALCON]

hahaha yeah i know but like they dont have like a whole country to tour so they are coming home to write a new album?

[Colezy]

They're home at the moment...going to Canada soon for the gig with Silverchair (can't remember when). After that, I'd say that they'll back in Aus for a little while to properly rest and then hopefully write/demo/record again.
Who knows what'll happen?


Oh and I think they're doing some SOE promo stuff in the states again.

[WHITE FALCON]

yeahh thats what i meant. the gig is a one off with silver chair hey. wo0o0 i wonder if they'll have any secret gigs to preview new songs like last time. i hope they have a show in brisbane :)

it feels like ages since they were home.

[The Dying Start]

I wonder if they'll have any secret gigs in Whyalla. At my place.