Album #6 - The Ending Is Just The Beginning Repeating

[May]

Stupid crowd is stupid...

[tlelover91]

Stupid crowd is stupid...

Which part? Where they sung white noise at the wrong part, or when they sung "One, two three" at the wrong point in POS?

[mattheal]

or that they paid like $530 per person to go to splendour?

[tlelover91]

Noooo dont end!

[mattheal]

ah well, hopefully they will play it again later on down the track with the full set (ie the start bits)

[tlelover91]

They started it late! We missed second solution! Grrr

Podcast? Would they be kind enough for a podcast?

[Sampson]

please tell me someone ripped that... i got the end of the ending.... :o

[mattheal]

Some people Sure did :)

just going to split it and try and mute the advertising

[iplaythefool]

please tell me someone ripped that... i got the end of the ending.... :o

yes.... :)

[May]

Which part? Where they sung white noise at the wrong part, or when they sung "One, two three" at the wrong point in POS?
Both!
or that they paid like $530 per person to go to splendour?
Well yeah, but if I'da had the money I would've too... so not so much that :p

[mattheal]

OH FUCK NO,.. Audacity has frozen and is non-responsive... and i havent saved the stream.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/19/128899054979088860.jpg

[iplaythefool]

sok, i got your back

[mattheal]

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/image.jpg

is alll good

[May]

Dylan for the win!

[NowhereTown]

I got a rip of the last half, quality is a bit crappy and there is about a minute of silence during wake up where my wireless card driver decided to update itself. freaking useless computer. I'll probably just end up grabbing someone elses.

[iplaythefool]

what is the best way to share it? ill be done in about 5min. will still have the few triple j bits during songs tho :(

[tlelover91]

what is the best way to share it? ill be done in about 5min. will still have the few triple j bits during songs tho :(

probably upload to a website then give us the link?

[May]

AFTC is my favourite for very good reasons. Woo hoo.Care to share why??

[tlelover91]

Why does triple j have to be so lame...

As far as I know, we missed second solution and e-boogie!

[iplaythefool]

one of my mates in the mosh said machine gun was #3?

[tlelover91]

one of my mates in the mosh said machine gun was #3?

This is what my mate just said
did you get heatwave? resist? in the morning? whos gonna save us? growing up falling down? e-boogie? prisoner, west end riot teijtbr or the room

THEY PLAYED THE ROOM! AND WE MISSED IT!

I am going to kill the people at triple j! They did a bloody encore, and they didnt play in on bloody triple j!

[mattheal]

WOAH that had better be in a future LATW

Gowing Up and The Room... AND THATS A FESTIVAL SET!

[mattheal]

Pics up already on JJJ

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/events/splendour/11/onstage/

[NowhereTown]

what is the best way to share it? ill be done in about 5min. will still have the few triple j bits during songs tho :(

Chuck it all in a zip file and upload to filedropper.com then share the link here

[NowhereTown]

This is what my mate just said
did you get heatwave? resist? in the morning? whos gonna save us? growing up falling down? e-boogie? prisoner, west end riot teijtbr or the room

THEY PLAYED THE ROOM! AND WE MISSED IT!

I am going to kill the people at triple j! They did a bloody encore, and they didnt play in on bloody triple j!

They are obviously not gonna play the whole set, just consider it luck yo got what you did. :)

[tlelover91]

They are obviously not gonna play the whole set, just consider it luck yo got what you did. :)

I would have been happy just to hear The Room live!

[tanguyen]

They are obviously not gonna play the whole set, just consider it luck yo got what you did. :)

My senses jumped up when I read that we did the room but basically... this post gets a two thumbs up from me

[iplaythefool]

http://www.sendspace.com/folder/5m2ebg

that link should take you to the folder with all the songs in it. let me know if it doesnt work. :) :)

EDIT: just looked at it more closely and it looks painful and you have to get each file individually. a just putting it on filedropper now

[iplaythefool]

Chuck it all in a zip file and upload to filedropper.com then share the link here

oh. just saw that then. i can do that too if the other one doesnt work...


here you go! http://www.filedropper.com/splendourinthegrass

[tlelover91]

http://www.sendspace.com/folder/5m2ebg

that link should take you to the folder with all the songs in it. let me know if it doesnt work. :) :)

It works, thank you :D I'll have to download the rest at another date though, I've almost used up all my downloads for the month

[mattheal]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KOEVWADY

there is my rip at 320kb/s but with the adverts cut as much as possible.
just ran a vocal remover in audacity over it, so they are still there but a little less glaringly obvious

[iplaythefool]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KOEVWADY

there is my rip at 320kb/s but with the adverts cut as much as possible.
just ran a vocal remover in audacity over it, so they are still there but a little less glaringly obvious

how did you get it at 320? doesnt triple j stream at 96ish?

[Caity]

WTF they played The Room?!

Man. I'll throw something at someone. I can't believe we missed it!

[Jessii]

I'm incredibly envious of my friend who flew over for Splendour right now.

[tanguyen]

Thank you guys!

[tanguyen]

Man how awesome is it that even after 15-16 years the crowd still goes fucking nuts for Prisoner

A reason why I still think it's fairly important that they play that song, even if they themselves, and the die hard fans don't like it.

[Kacky]

They played GROWING UP AND THE ROOM?! That's awesome!

Someone has been lurking here :p I didn't even know they were streaming parts of the set, so thanks to the kiddies who recorded it for us!

[Kacky]

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/events/splendour/11/blog/img/living_600.jpg

Chris is playing banana phone again...

[Aaron]

They are obviously not gonna play the whole set, just consider it luck yo got what you did. :)

Too right! Gee there's a lot of whingy self-entitlement going on in this thread. I mean, how dare an advertising-free national radio station broadcast from an expensive music festival all weekend and miss any of it at all, or occasionally say the name of their station on the broadcast? Those jerks, huh?

[NowhereTown]

Hoping they have a video clip for Song for the Lonely out soon. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

[tlelover91]

Hoping they have a video clip for Song for the Lonely out soon. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

I enjoy watching their video :D

[Craigels]

I'm loving In The Morning. Lively, technical and yet simple, tells a story and....SOLO'S. I'm still a bit if-y on the spacey vocal synth bit at the beginning but without it it doesn't have the same impact....I don't know where I'm going with that.

At the risk of it having already been asked, what does everyone think the next singles will be? Obviously Q@^ and Song For The Lonely are the first two.

I'd like to see Heatwave and In The Morning, they're exactly what you'd ecpect from a TLE single, anthemic, rocking and generally TLE. The ONLY quarrels I have with them as singles is that Heatwave starts a little too slow for a single. What I mean by that most people make a judgement on a song in the first 10 seconds or so of a song and so they just skip it, but by the chorus it's kicking.

[tlelover91]

I'm loving In The Morning. Lively, technical and yet simple, tells a story and....SOLO'S. I'm still a bit if-y on the spacey vocal synth bit at the beginning but without it it doesn't have the same impact....I don't know where I'm going with that.

At the risk of it having already been asked, what does everyone think the next singles will be? Obviously Q@^ and Song For The Lonely are the first two.

I'd like to see Heatwave and In The Morning, they're exactly what you'd ecpect from a TLE single, anthemic, rocking and generally TLE. The ONLY quarrels I have with them as singles is that Heatwave starts a little too slow for a single. What I mean by that most people make a judgement on a song in the first 10 seconds or so of a song and so they just skip it, but by the chorus it's kicking.

I'm going to say For Another Day because I love it and it's mentioned on the promo posters and the vinyl. It's a bit of a weird single though.

[dave790]

I'm loving In The Morning. Lively, technical and yet simple, tells a story and....SOLO'S. I'm still a bit if-y on the spacey vocal synth bit at the beginning but without it it doesn't have the same impact....I don't know where I'm going with that.

At the risk of it having already been asked, what does everyone think the next singles will be? Obviously Q@^ and Song For The Lonely are the first two.

I'd like to see Heatwave and In The Morning, they're exactly what you'd ecpect from a TLE single, anthemic, rocking and generally TLE. The ONLY quarrels I have with them as singles is that Heatwave starts a little too slow for a single. What I mean by that most people make a judgement on a song in the first 10 seconds or so of a song and so they just skip it, but by the chorus it's kicking.

Yeah, In The Morning is my fave atm. I'm glad they're kicking off the shows with it too. It would make a good single, I think United would be cool but I can't see it...Away from The City even less likely, but what a fucking rocking track to release!

[MegaCoWhispers]

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/103abf56c8e318c466795c0ac/images/EXCLUSIVE_Rolling_Stone_lowres.jpg

[Mitch-PTV]

Where did you find that! thanks for posting *right click, set as wallpaper*

[Amur]

Where did you find that! thanks for posting *right click, set as wallpaper*
it's from Crucial Music email :)

[tanguyen]

Sorry, these threads have been flying at a super pace. But can someone explain to me what song is Q@^ and why?

[NowhereTown]

Q@^ refers to the whole album The Ending is just the Beginning Repeating (Each thing represents a part of the album art Q=Snake @=swirlly thing ^=triangle.)

[mattheal]

http://www.thelivingend.com/vBforum/showthread.php?t=9010

it refers to the album cover, because TEIJTBR is a painful acronym

[Knackers]

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/103abf56c8e318c466795c0ac/images/exclusive_rolling_stone_lowres.jpg

nnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Dying Start]

Where's the high res??

[weekends4ever]

and the copy of the CD bought this week goes to.............a work colleague who needed cheering up!

[funnyboy88]

Here is my track by track review. Pardon my lack of interesting adjectives to describe music.

1. In the Morning - Great opener. Got my hopes for the album. Fantastic guitar playing, great melodies, and entertaining lyrics with a story. My only qualm: where's the big chorus? They do the "Leave in the morning" part twice, but it's not exactly treated like the usual big TLE chorus.

2. Heatwave - Yes yes yes! Great song. Amazingly catchy chorus. Classic TLE groove. Immediately jumped out at me as an album highlight and a possible single.

3. Machine Gun - It's okay. Mid tempo track that kind of plods. Chorus is nice. The weirdest part of this song is its structure. After the guitar solo, I'm expecting the chorus to come back in for a final 3rd round that will smack my face...but it never happens. Kind of feel this song should have been given the "smack in the face" tempo of songs like Prisoner of Society and What's On Your Radio. I play it in my head that way and it sounds better.

4. For Another Day - I imagine fans of the band who arrived with Prisoner of Society might have trouble swallowing cheese songs like this, but I love it. Great melodies. And the bridge! Oh yes! I always enjoy when the band slows things down a bit (a la Nothing Lasts Forever).

5. Song for the Lonely - Another album highlight and a great choice for a single. Nice large 2-part chorus ("We always knew..." coupled with "This song's for the lonely"). But this song suffers from the same song structure issues. They only do the full chorus twice. It sort of works for this song though. Really great bridge! If I had to choose 3 songs to send a friend from this album, this definitely makes the cut.

6. Ride the Wave Boy - I give this song a B. The chorus has a nice melody but it's a tad too repetitive. Nice bridge. This song is just missing that extra SOMETHING to make it an A track. Just a little too bland, but still a solid mid-album track.

7. Resist - I'm really torn about this song. It doesn't sound finishedl. The bridge section is all amazing. The section of 2:14-3:35 (the bridge section), I'm totally there. Some of the best minute and a half of TLE. But where's the big chorus? The "You can't trust a word they say" melody section that is used 3 times sounds like a pre-chorus that is leading to something big. But it doesn't. If i was the producer, I would have told Chris that the "Treated like a criminal" part should have been modeled to be the song's chorus. This song could have been a classic. Again, the bridge section is TLE at the top of their game! But there is no central hook for the song to latch on to. All the best TLE songs have amazing choruses. Of all the songs on the record, this had to be the one with the biggest potential. Needed more time in the oven. Everything surrounding the bridge is bland besides the good lyrics.

8. Away from the City - Pretty forgettable. I enjoy the verses and bridge, but the chorus...too bland. This reminds of Nowhere Town. Mid-tempo track deep into the album that has a couple interesting sections but wasn't quite ready to be an album track and sit alongside the greats.

9. United - Pretty solid track. Verse, pre-chorus, and chorus melodies are all great. The lyrics for the chorus are good and make a great anthem. But again with the weird song structure! It has the great guitar solo that is supposed to lead into a big final run of the chorus, but it never happens! It makes the song kind of taper off in interest for me because it never comes back around. Almost an A track.

10 Universe - Probably the best track on the album and goes in my TLE Hall of Fame list. Just every second of this song is dripping with awesome. Amazing melodies with great harmonies. Anthemic large chorus (that they do 3 times, yay!). Should definitely be a single. They did everything absolutely perfect here. Knocked it out of the park. "BUT I DON'T NEED TO BE SAVED!" Makes me want to pump my fist!

11. Title track - Guess what I'm going to complain about? The best part of the song is the chorus "The ending is just the beginning repeating," and they only use it twice. After the guitar solo I'm just waiting for it to come back and smack me for one final round, and the song kind of fizzles. I certainly enjoy the final use of "We are the tired and weary" section, but the "the ending is just the beginning repeating" section was the highlight of the song for me.

Overall, this album is pretty solid. iTunes is telling me I've played a lot of the songs almost 20 times. I'm only skipping Ride the Wave Boy and Away from the City lately, but those aren't certainly BAD songs. They just wear quickly. There is some overall unevenness in quality. My complaint about White Noise was that it was 10 songs that were all good, but they didn't glue together as an album. It was like Chris going, "Here's 10 good songs! Burn them to a disc!" TEIJTBR is truly an album, and I love that. You can tell they chose a sound and designed a whole album with it. That is so rare these days! It seems like most mature bands get to a point where they forget what an album is supposed to be and just release a group of songs. But despite it having a totally even sound that carries through the album, there are just some very dull spots. Tracks 6-9 struggle to keep things as interesting as tracks 1-5 or 10-11. There are great sections in tracks 6-9 (the bridge section of Resist! Again, holy shit!), but overall, the album loses a lot of momentum there.

And Chris seems to be bored with song structure. That's my only explanation for why so many songs lack a chorus that is repeated 3 times. Songwriters get tired of using the same old formula, but there's a reason it works. We need that final 3rd chorus to wrap it all up and send us off smiling.

Each album brings new classics and reminds me why I love this band so much. I hope they never stop making music!

[Mitch-PTV]

Here is my track by track review.
...

And Chris seems to be bored with song structure. That's my only explanation for why so many songs lack a chorus that is repeated 3 times. Songwriters get tired of using the same old formula, but there's a reason it works. We need that final 3rd chorus to wrap it all up and send us off smiling.

some great words said there man. Just some points for discussion tho, from my take on the album anyway. (not saying your wrong, or challenging you or anything, but yea, yay for discussion!)

for the lack of catchy chorus, i think that in a lot of cases, repeating the chorus that final time will take away from the intensity of things. there are times when repeating a chorus or a riff too many times in a song can just take a lot of force away from it.

the title track is where i think this most, if they went back to the chorus after the solo itd just feel tacked on the end, the flow and rhythm would be interupted and it will feel like the chorus is just being played for the sake of it. the way they do the prechorus, and change up the chords and music in the final run, followed by the drum fill just brings the song to a climax, and then droping back into that intro riff just carries the pace and feel till the end, they couldnt have done that part better.

its obvious that what drew you into this band was their anthemic chorus' like POS or "second! SOL-UT-ION! second!" and i agree, when hearing those chorus' you cant help but sing along and just get into them 110%, but with this album, the songs are very riff based and they are well written songs throughout. they live on that pulse and feel of the music, rather than being built around that anthemic chorus.

just my 2c tho :)

[The Dying Start]

4. For Another Day - I imagine fans of the band who arrived with Prisoner of Society might have trouble swallowing cheese songs like this, but I love it. Great melodies. And the bridge! Oh yes! I always enjoy when the band slows things down a bit (a la Nothing Lasts Forever).

I arrived with Prisoner / Second Solution, but this is one of my favourites!

[wizard_23]

This album is best at loud volume.

[May]

I arrived with Prisoner / Second Solution, but this is one of my favourites!

Mine too - hit me as a fave during the album streaming!!

[The Dying Start]

This album is best at loud volume.

Few albums aren't...

[wizard_23]

Few albums aren't...

Indeed, I just felt it important to note while I was blasting it through my headphones last night.

[mattheal]

Few albums aren't...

Metallica's latest springs to mind. absolultely shocking mixing

[Beat Poet]

Well it's just the redlined mastering. It's funny that Californication by the Chilis was one of the first albums to get widespread criticism for being over compressed, yet if you listen to it and then Death Magnetic, Californication sounds like a 70s album in comparison.

[Deadcat Kaye]

Does anyone actually like microWave boy??

It's come up in conversation multiple times at band rehearsal because we all think it's shit.
And everyone I've spoken too who isn't on the boards also think it's crap
Yes, very much aware that the title is Ride The Wave Boy

Either way, I dig the album, few songs are crazy good, few songs I tend to skip, this album might even beat White Noise.
In comparison, the style of songs on white noise were all over the place, it's like all
the songs were all on the fence, in TEIJTBR majority all kinda swing into the next song with ease.

[mattheal]

Kylie does! :p

I dont hate it, but its definitely not my fave

[The Dying Start]

Boy is one of the least favourites for me. I've heard similar from other people too. I appreciate it's honesty, but it doesn't quite hit the mark for mine. It's still deadly catchy, and i don't often skip it, though it'd be the first to go if i did start skipping tracks.

[Colezy]

I quite like it! Can't put my finger on what it is that I like about it. But I do. So there :p

[May]

In my initial however-many listens through I really didn't like RTWB and wondered why Chris wanted it on there so bad.
Then maybe two weeks after I'd first heard it, album was playing while I was heavily focussed in the middle of some work and suddenly it hit me with one of those "wow" moments, and when I realised it was RTWB I was a little surprised :huh:

But yeah, can't see myself skipping it now :happy:

[Caity]

Yeah I love it now, it took a while to grow but now it's one of my favourites.

[All_torn_down16]

It took a while to grow on me too, but I quite like it now. I might be the only one, but I really like the lyrics. To me they really flow...and that's not meant to be a pun with waves and all :p! The only thing that I dislike is the repeating chorus, but apart from that, it's a solid song.

[drifta_21]

Well it's a good song, it's good that it turns away from "usual" TLE but still sounds like them. I just always seem to have Quadrophenia playing in my head whenever I hear it though

[Habibster]

I think its great. Resist is my favourite off the album, and Ride the Wave Boy is my 2nd favourite.

Edit: Also, I love how in RTWB the chord progression changes to a major-ish triumphant feel for the majority of the final chorus. Gives it a nice contrast, and theres also some good guitar licks in the song.

[Mitch-PTV]

In my initial however-many listens through I really didn't like RTWB and wondered why Chris wanted it on there so bad.
Then maybe two weeks after I'd first heard it, album was playing while I was heavily focussed in the middle of some work and suddenly it hit me with one of those "wow" moments, and when I realised it was RTWB I was a little surprised :huh:

But yeah, can't see myself skipping it now :happy:

Yea i was the same May. i mean, it wasnt a bad song, but i couldnt understand why every interview they were always saying how much they loved it. then you start noticing "oh that bridge is pretty damn cool, yea that chorus picks up well, etc"

[MyWeepingGuitar]

Yeah I'm the same with RTWB... and Machine gun too. Didn't grab me on first listen, but really like them now. But Resist and Universe are still my clear favorites!

[thelivingvines]

For me I think I only just 'got' RTWB. I think it's the kind of song that Chris writes when he isn't thinking of songs to write for TLE. If he were to ever release anything on his own, I think that's the kind of songwriting and sound he would go for. Really intricate and away from simple chord patterns. I kind of see nothing lasts forever as being in the same vein musically. To say that you have to work to like a song would be the wrong way to put it, but to say that you have to think about what you are listening to and invest a little more in it might be true. It's a slow burner for sure!

[The Dying Start]

It's interesting, it seems that 50% of people love a handful of certain songs, and 50% love the other handful of certain songs. It's quite a contrast of views.

[whiteshoescheney]

anyone a big in the morning fan.....?

[Beat Poet]

I've liked RTWB since I first heard it, hopefully it'll open up a new direction for them. I'll concede though that they could have done a bit more with the song, but they're not so experienced with writing those type of songs. I also think In The Morning is great, same with Universe. The title track is the only one I don't really like.

[All_torn_down16]

anyone a big in the morning fan.....?

I am. Definitely one of my favourite songs from the album. The lead guitar is fantastic. Plus it's a really great opening song for both the album and live shows.

[May]

Yah, love In The Morning, and For Another Day, and Resist, and...

Universe is the bomb :D

[Shadow]

I don't like RTWB (aka "Microwave Boy"). It just feels overly repetitive and the string section just... hurts. That said, everything after the string section is good (the "desperation in your eyes" post-bridge, and final chorus).

Still a bit iffy about For Another Day, Song For The Lonely is growing on me a little bit.

[MyWeepingGuitar]

It's interesting, it seems that 50% of people love a handful of certain songs, and 50% love the other handful of certain songs. It's quite a contrast of views.

well I love all of them...never hit the skip button, only the repeat :)

[paulvroc]

It's interesting, it seems that 50% of people love a handful of certain songs, and 50% love the other handful of certain songs. It's quite a contrast of views.

Yes this is very interesting...when the album first dropped everyone seemed to love everything, and now songs are dividing people. Officially I love every song on there...they're all great...and I'm not the sort of listener who skips any track at all, whatsoever when listening to an album I've put on. But I am leaning more heavily towards the better tracks now.

anyone a big in the morning fan.....?

Yes. In fact 5 minutes ago I spun it...the guitar and the energy is amazing, I love it. 5/5.

I don't like RTWB (aka "Microwave Boy"). It just feels overly repetitive and the string section just... hurts. That said, everything after the string section is good (the "desperation in your eyes" post-bridge, and final chorus).

Still a bit iffy about For Another Day, Song For The Lonely is growing on me a little bit.

I kinda agree with all of this (and find your alternative title hilarious!). Along with For Another Day and Song For The Lonely, I don't quite enjoy RTWB as much as the other tracks on the album. That said, the lyrics are strong, the last verse is killer, and I do appreciate it on a few levels. It just won't ever be the 'perfect' song, like Universe is. I don't dislike any of the three, they just pale a bit to the other songs.

[The Dying Start]

well I love all of them...never hit the skip button, only the repeat :)

Well good for you!

[Joab]

Oh hey there! I've been away from the forums for a while (freaking Uni and work) but now I'm back! Woo!

I met a few of you at the 1st Enmore Gig, didn't get to talk much though. You all seemed like great people! Have to have to try that again sometime, I was late to the pub sesh unfortunately :(

[The Dying Start]

They're all pretty rubbish, you're better off talking to non-forumers! :p

[whiteshoescheney]

just randomly...when are the Aria's...are they even on anymore hahaha just wondering

[mrbarb]

just randomly...when are the Aria's...are they even on anymore hahaha just wondering

The ARIAs are Nov 27th

[NowhereTown]

Anyone know when the next single is going to be released? I know it's most likely going to be away from the city, but I'm too keen
For b-sides! Lol

[Mitch-PTV]

Yea? i would put a few more infront of away from the city. its one of my favorites on the album, but i thing a few others would be better singles. or have i missed out on something here....

[MegaCoWhispers]

I think it's going to be 'For Another Day'

On the Vinyl it had featuring "TEIJTBR, SFTL & FAD"

[NowhereTown]

I think it's going to be 'For Another Day'

On the Vinyl it had featuring "TEIJTBR, SFTL & FAD"

Yeah, thats why i though it too, plus they are starting to use it as 'codewords' in competitions and things, so i guess that points towaeds it too.

[whiteshoescheney]

what comp had for anouther day as the code word? :wassat:

[paulvroc]

Keeping one eye on the ARIA charts, it is interesting to note that Q@^ is doing a lot worse than the last 2 albums...especially White Noise, which did very well.

In addition, neither of the singles seem to have taken much either. I imagine the camp must be quite disappointed, given they had 2 platinum releases last time around.

[The Dying Start]

I suppose it is flying below the radar a bit. Which is a pity because i feel it's the stronger record.

[whiteshoescheney]

^^^ someone kill this person?

[Habibster]

^ I don't think its a person.

Yeah it's a good album. But its lacking that unique Living Endness. The songs are far more simpler than White Noise which had 'simple' straight forward songs. They are alienating fans by not giving them what they want.

Its a double-edged sword though, because ultimately they have to write what they want and enjoy playing/writing.

EDIT: Although how nice would it be, for them to return to their original sound ALA Metallica/Death Magnetic? :)

[whiteshoescheney]

i think it was just lacking marketing, it wasnt very well advertised...at least not in adelaide and the songs havent really been getting a great deal of airplay so people probably dont even know its been released unless their fans.

[Beat Poet]

Is there a sense around the country of "what, another Living End album?" or something? I get that impression from afar, what with people saying that the album hasn't done so well and the crowds at the gigs have been a bit tame.

[whiteshoescheney]

mmm kinda i think people still think white noise is still like their one and only song cause it was played to death on the radio, none of the new songs have really been played to much on the radio, people arent really aware of it i dont think

[Colezy]

Is there a sense around the country of "what, another Living End album?" or something? I get that impression from afar, what with people saying that the album hasn't done so well and the crowds at the gigs have been a bit tame.

That's certainly been the reaction i've encountered as far as the BDO announcement goes. "They're playing at ANOTHER BDO/festival"/"what festival HAVEN'T they played".

*edit - I think I read your post a little differently to how it was intended, but what ever :p

[Big J.G]

People still think White Noise is TLE's only song. Yeah.

[TaylorLovesChrisCheneyx]

People still think White Noise is TLE's only song. Yeah.

doesn't surprise me.

[Beat Poet]

That's certainly been the reaction i've encountered as far as the BDO announcement goes. "They're playing at ANOTHER BDO/festival"/"what festival HAVEN'T they played".

*edit - I think I read your post a little differently to how it was intended, but what ever :p

Nah you're right, that's what I meant ;) Thankfully they're not in Europe or the US often enough for that kind of thing to creep in!

[The Dying Start]

People still think White Noise is TLE's only song. Yeah.

People still think Prisoner Of Society / Second Solution are their only songs!

[whiteshoescheney]

people know their big songs like prisoner of society, second solution, wake up and white noise but people dont know the band, people are like oh is that the living end i thaught that was someone else...

[The Dying Start]

I remember when everyone knew them instantly.

[Sarah]

That's certainly been the reaction i've encountered as far as the BDO announcement goes. "They're playing at ANOTHER BDO/festival"/"what festival HAVEN'T they played".

*edit - I think I read your post a little differently to how it was intended, but what ever :p

Yep, that is especially the case down here as they're doing BOL and BDO.

I think there has been a fair amount of advertising (mainstream at least) for the album - already a bunch of tv appearances, flogged on JJJ, new website, tour, festival appearances, the regular stuff.

But, I guess something isn't working cos I don't think I know a non-forumer that has bought the album (or is pumped to see them at BOL/BDO)

[The Dying Start]

The new material got a reasonable reaction live in Adelaide, I dunno about the rest of the country. It certainly wasn't dead silent and shuffling of feet for those songs, there was some singing along and alot of moshing.

[All_torn_down16]

i think it was just lacking marketing, it wasnt very well advertised...at least not in adelaide and the songs havent really been getting a great deal of airplay so people probably dont even know its been released unless their fans.

I've certainly found that there has been less advertising for Q@^ compared to SOE and WN (unless I haven't been looking in the right places :p). For example, when those albums were released, I found reviews in many places, even the local community newspaper which was surprising! But for Q@^, I haven't found half as many articles.

[MyWeepingGuitar]

There was quite a bit of singing along in Perth, even for some of the new songs, and plenty of chanting for Prisoner and Uncle Harry. But the crowd was relatively small, and nothing like the enthusiasm in the mosh that there was at the Rottnest gig last year (though that gig was rather exceptional!). I had assumed the Perth show was close to sellout as there were not many ads in the local music mags in the couple of weeks before the show...but they didn't sell enough to open the top section of the venue. Still, everyone who was there seemed to enjoy it!

[Jessii]

Yeah 4th time i've seen them at that venue, and the 1st time they didn't open the top floor.
Also haven't found any reviews for the gig!

[MyWeepingGuitar]

I did see one review...am trying to remember where now. I wasn't Wire... I think it was online.

[Jessii]

There was an article in the newspaper today about how BDO line up is disapointing, because most bands have done it before and are past their use by dates, and all it says in reference to TLE is "And they've done it in 99, 03, 06 and 09."

[Big J.G]

TLE are just festival whores, Big Day Out is just one of many festivals they've done.

[Beat Poet]

Sounds like the Manics, who have turned into complete gig whores. They've done three albums in four years, and in that space of time they've done five UK tours (two of them have comprised over thirty dates each), have played almost every festival in Europe twice and are now releasing their second greatest hits album with a "celebratory" gig at the O2 where they'll play every single they've ever released. Add in to that the fact that they play their greatest hits at every single gig, and you have alot of bored and jaded fans.

[Jessii]

TLE are just festival whores, Big Day Out is just one of many festivals they've done.

Well duh...

[Beat Poet]

Did any recordings ever surface of any of the Safety Matches songs that didn't make the album?

Train (Puffing Billy)
Don't Forget To Breathe
Everyone Bleeds
Sunday
Postcard

Just wondering if, like Away From The City, they re-emerged under new names or have been consigned to the sack of tapes?

[NowhereTown]

Did any recordings ever surface of any of the Safety Matches songs that didn't make the album?

Train (Puffing Billy)
Don't Forget To Breathe
Everyone Bleeds
Sunday
Postcard

Just wondering if, like Away From The City, they re-emerged under new names or have been consigned to the sack of tapes?

Im hoping theres still a chance for some to pop up as b-sides, but im not sure if that will happen. I'm thinking they may release a single around BDO time to try a bit more to get the new material out, but yeah, as for any of those FROM safety matches, unlikely, and if people did, im not sure if they'd be keen to part with them

[Shadow]

Did any recordings ever surface of any of the Safety Matches songs that didn't make the album?

Train (Puffing Billy)
Don't Forget To Breathe
Everyone Bleeds
Sunday
Postcard

Just wondering if, like Away From The City, they re-emerged under new names or have been consigned to the sack of tapes?
None of them have surfaced, not - likewise, none of them have re-emerged under new names. Who knows though, it's certainly never too late?

It is worth noting that Everyone Bleeds may have been recorded during the sessions... (it can be seen on their song checklist / whiteboard thing in a studio clip) though whether or not it was finished off is another story.

Oddly enough the iTunes bonus track "Do You Remember?" isn't on that list BUT was tracked up in Byron Bay during their time with Didia and presumably finished with overdubs etc. at Red Door Studios like the rest of the album tracks, perhaps it went through a name change?

Check out this clip for shots of said "checklist": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpYymWkt4

Unreleased songs spotted on the list:
Heavy Rain
Captured In A Moment - (of the four unreleased, this may have been the only one they finished off, it was mentioned in an interview in jMag (click for picture, info is at the bottom of image) (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2474/image1jn.jpg) back in May)
Everyone Bleeds
Out In The Cold

[Mitch-PTV]

Thats some quality research there ^^, kudos.

[Anfony]

Chugga chugga Wooo wooo! Not good quality but it's the best my HTC could do. It's a shame this song never made it, I love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAu8GMXovM

[mattheal]

I knew I'd seen train somewhere! but didnt want to say i had in case i was imagining it

[Shadow]

Train was indeed a fun little tune. I just watched that user's video of The Ending from the same gig and was reminded of how awesome the end of the song was at the SM shows. So much huge-r than the album version, ending it that way.

[whiteshoescheney]

does anyone know if were gonna get some youtube clips or somethin anytime soon? id love to see an infocus non fuzzy version of away from the city...